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Old 08-24-2023, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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I don't get why people don't put in nice aggregate concrete. It lasts 50 years with virtually no maintenance.
If you have a really elevated deck like I did back in WV that won't work.
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:44 PM
 
Location: PNW
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If you have a really elevated deck like I did back in WV that won't work.
I get why a second story deck has to be wood or timber tech (obviously). But, most people are dealing with ground level.
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Old 08-24-2023, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Well I don't what the OP is dealing with, but in WV, PA, MT- hilly states a ton of decks are well elevated over walk out or daylight basements.
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Old 08-24-2023, 11:11 PM
 
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I don't get why people don't put in nice aggregate concrete. It lasts 50 years with virtually no maintenance.
Because I don't want it. I have a very nice large paver patio off the deck already, that slopes with the grade and drains nicely.
And my house is on a crawlspace - I want a straight walkout to a deck.
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Old 08-25-2023, 12:21 AM
 
Location: PNW
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Because I don't want it. I have a very nice large paver patio off the deck already, that slopes with the grade and drains nicely.
And my house is on a crawlspace - I want a straight walkout to a deck.
I would only do timber tech if I had to have a deck. They last a reasonable amount of time.

I had really big stairs poured (as wide as my sliding glass door) and two steps down. So, I can stand on the first step like a platform before stepping down (I have big planters on one side of the stairs -- they are roomy). However, I have toyed with the idea of decking. We just get too much weather here and the concrete survives that better than other materials.
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Old 08-25-2023, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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I knew it would be pricey but holy crap. Anyone had their old deck rebuilt recently? I was expecting somewhere in the vicinity of 10 to 12k, but the estimates are closer to 15k to nearly 30k (this is for about 465sf of deck and two sets of steps). The lower end is for wood, and the composite prices are just way way up there.

I really had talked myself into composite before I started getting estimates. I just hate the thought of continuing to deal with the maintenance on a wood deck...and never mind that the wood today has about half the life span (resisting rot and holding up as well) of the wood that mine was built with (arsenic was banned in 2004 - my deck was built before that). I'll never get the 20-25 years out of a PT deck today that I have gotten out of mine. And it takes a beating - full sun all day long.

Argggh. Still not sure what I am going to do, I still have more estimates to get but man...I was not counting on such a huge expense.
We are having ours 'rebuilt.' Scheduled for 1st week in October. We'll do the demo, carpenter will replace deck and 'lean to' (overhang, whatever we are calling this) in the same footprint. One guy will set metal posts deep into the ground to start the process for the deck. Carpenter is a different guy.

Our deck is 24x16 now. I've asked him to extend it to 24x20 so I have a slice of deck out in the sun, and not under the overhang. He will use pressure treated wood and we are not having anything fancy done. Roof of overhang will be shingle instead of the metal we have now and will match the house roof which we are having redone at the same time. EDIT to add: Of course, new posts will be sunk.... 6x6 I believe.

$15,500 for the deck and overhang. I forgot about asking for steps, which I now realize I want, so this doesn't include that. (The deck will be raised in line with the garage door that opens onto the deck, but I am going to need steps down into the grass.)

We're pulling the trigger because we don't think it will get much cheaper and we have the $$ now. If we stay, we have a new roof and deck. If we leave, it adds value to the house. I wanted composite too but that was WAY more expensive. The current deck is pressure treated wood and is still in very good shape because it's under the overhang.

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Old 08-25-2023, 08:07 AM
 
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We are having ours 'rebuilt.' Scheduled for 1st week in October. We'll do the demo, carpenter will replace deck and 'lean to' (overhang, whatever we are calling this) in the same footprint. One guy will set metal posts deep into the ground to start the process for the deck. Carpenter is a different guy.

Our deck is 24x16 now. I've asked him to extend it to 24x20 so I have a slice of deck out in the sun, and not under the overhang. He will use pressure treated wood and we are not having anything fancy done. Roof of overhang will be shingle instead of the metal we have now and will match the house roof which we are having redone at the same time. EDIT to add: Of course, new posts will be sunk.... 6x6 I believe.

$15,500 for the deck and overhang. I forgot about asking for steps, which I now realize I want, so this doesn't include that. (The deck will be raised in line with the garage door that opens onto the deck, but I am going to need steps down into the grass.)

We're pulling the trigger because we don't think it will get much cheaper and we have the $$ now. If we stay, we have a new roof and deck. If we leave, it adds value to the house. I wanted composite too but that was WAY more expensive. The current deck is pressure treated wood and is still in very good shape because it's under the overhang.
That's about the size of mine. I just can't do pressure treated again. I am over the maintenance, and the wood just doesn't last as long as the pre-arsenic-ban stuff, and there is ZERO shade on my deck. Full sun all day. I think I might have to add a pergola later. Yea the prices have just gone nuts.
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Old 08-25-2023, 08:17 AM
 
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I don't get why people don't put in nice aggregate concrete. It lasts 50 years with virtually no maintenance.
Have you looked at OP's picture?
Have you walked on aggregate concrete?
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Old 08-25-2023, 08:22 AM
 
Location: northern New England
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back in 2005 we had a U shaped deck that went around 3 sides of the house. Best quote was $3500 complete. (we did the demo). Had another quote, "well it will be $3500 just for material!" -- I just smiled and said thank you. Went with the cheapest guy. He did a great job, worked solo, I noticed the pieces of lumber were different brands so I think he picked up what he could, when he could, at discount prices.


It was a real experience getting quotes.
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Old 08-25-2023, 10:24 AM
 
Location: PNW
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Have you looked at OP's picture?
Have you walked on aggregate concrete?
There is no OP picture.

Yes, sandals or slippers on concrete. It never has to be replaced for 50+ years.
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