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Old 06-27-2020, 07:03 PM
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So some testing sites will give you your result within 15 min after taking it. Why isn't this kind of testing more wide spread around town? Is it because of cost? My results took a couple of days when i went right after the memorial day weekend. My friend went recently and his came back around 5 days probably due to so many people getting tested over the past week.
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Old 06-27-2020, 07:17 PM
 
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Today's website has the data from 06/25. Not much of a change. Looks like the surge capacity is about double of the current regular capacity (to that we should be aspiring to use it).

Remember that regular ICU bed occupancy is about 75%-80%, so a limited amount of time of it being at 100% is not necessarily a concern. And it's not uncommon for rates to be high enough that hospitals go on diversion status at different points throughout the year (usually during flu season).
While this is true - currently 75% of the beds are occupied with nonCovid patients, but the other 25% are occupied with Covid patients. Thus 100% full. So that’s why they need to open up new units in the hospitals for the spill over.
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Old 06-27-2020, 09:03 PM
 
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You're talking about flattening the curve which was mentioned by MSM all the time.
Which the MSM should do. The MSM is right here. Abbott opened up too soon and therefore failed at that. Abbott should be criticized here.

It's time for people to accept there will be hardships. Businesses will have to close now because Abbott failed, and it's time to accept that.

If necessary, demand money from the government to sustain basic (not luxurious) quality of life. Any silly talk about "bootstraps" should end now: the government's job is to keep you alive.
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Old 06-27-2020, 09:19 PM
 
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but this is a pretty robust site with statewide hospital use data (which can be filtered by county).

And as of a couple of hours ago, the TMC site is now missing all the graphs that tracked specific bed usage. Hmmm.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...UwOCIsImMiOjN9
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:34 AM
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Apologies if this has been posted before, but this is a pretty robust site with statewide hospital use data (which can be filtered by county).

And as of a couple of hours ago, the TMC site is now missing all the graphs that tracked specific bed usage. Hmmm.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...UwOCIsImMiOjN9
Good find.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:36 AM
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Which the MSM should do. The MSM is right here. Abbott opened up too soon and therefore failed at that. Abbott should be criticized here.

It's time for people to accept there will be hardships. Businesses will have to close now because Abbott failed, and it's time to accept that.

If necessary, demand money from the government to sustain basic (not luxurious) quality of life. Any silly talk about "bootstraps" should end now: the government's job is to keep you alive.
Or is the surge due to the protests which he had no control over? There was no surge until mid-June. Everything was pretty flat.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:44 AM
 
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Or is the surge due to the protests which he had no control over? There was no surge until mid-June. Everything was pretty flat.
If there were surges driven by the protests, we would have seen massive upticks in places like NYC, SF, and DC. We haven’t.
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:58 AM
 
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Or is the surge due to the protests which he had no control over? There was no surge until mid-June. Everything was pretty flat.
You’ve suggested this earlier, but apparently not. Here was my reply:

Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and other cities across the country have not seen the sharp, sustained spikes that were expected after hundreds of thousands of people gathered for protests against police brutality. Daily demonstrations, some capped by riots, began about a week after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police on May 25. The maximum incubation period for COVID-19 — the time between getting infected and showing symptoms — is believed to be two weeks, so any fallout should be clear by now.

The leading theory to explain this paradox is that being outdoors is safer than indoors. Numerous studies support this. Japanese researchers, for example, found the odds of indoor transmission of the coronavirus were about 19 times greater than in the open air
https://www.inquirer.com/health/coro...-20200627.html
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:21 AM
 
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In Chicago, there was about a week of protests and one night that descended into rioting (night of May 30). But that part of it was over and done with by dawn on the first. After that, they stopped protesting in fixed, preplanned locations that could be interfered with by political/material opportunists taking advantage of chaos, and the marches became silent so as to not facilitate the spread of virus through shouting slogans and such. It was all outdoor, on the street, socially distant, and nothing got broken and nobody got hurt. And then by the next weekend these tapered off, the plywood came down and we carried on with a "cautiously reopen" phase.

If this was all about the protests, we should be seeing a massive spike right now. We're not.
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Old 06-28-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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Or is the surge due to the protests which he had no control over? There was no surge until mid-June. Everything was pretty flat.
If we (USA) continue 'Guessing' where the surge is.... We will always be behind the curve.
no reason to guess, no reason to use Politicians to formulate a plan, no reason to be listening to media. Adequate resources in Health and Science.

So simple... Many countries controlled spread from day one.

This (infection and spread) was no surprise to USA. + we had many examples and (free) references of what was working elsewhere.

still seeing 5 -10 day test results in USA. ($120)
S Korea ($3) was txting results in 10 min before USA even had a test kit (tho the formula was available for free).
Taiwan never had a shutdown, tho far more densely populated that US and next door to China with a lot of immigration.
(UAE requires testing at airline gate before departure. 10 days waiting for results is not gonna cut it)

No Secrets, just obstinance and many dead people and jobs / retirement accts, and industries (cruise / airline / hotel / commercial food distribution) to prove it.
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