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Old 07-28-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by As Above So Below... View Post
Ohh...so youre a troll. Youre saying things to get a reaction instead of presenting an argument for your point.

That makes more sense.
It's more a function of my saying something you didn't appreciate, care for and/or agree with.


It's just like the millions of threads over the years about Houston's "world class" status in this or that regard, and/or lack thereof. And I'd get on and say that it's not for Houstonians to decide. It's for the rest of the world to decide. Well, right now, thanks to incompetence from the federal government on down to the local yokel who thinks Bill Gates is trying to microchip him when he willingly bought a tracking device from Steve Jobs' ghost for $900 - the world is deciding that it just might go on without the United States of America.

And, by extension, Texas.
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Old 07-29-2020, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Mo City, TX
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I am hearing more and more cases of "Long Haulers", people that seem to be sick for months. Everyone foucuses on deaths, but the long term effects of people that never even get hospitalized is not well understood. Very strange virus indeed.

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/ne...ms/5420534002/
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Are you arguing that there is a media conspiracy to deride HCQ/Zn merely as an effort to get rid of Trump? That's weak thinking, given the inconclusive overall study results, and the number of studies that indicate HCQ causes more issues than it solves.
Oh sure thing you know, that weak thinking is a favorite hobby, and pathetic personal insult is maybe the contributor's.

Notice how contributor does not link any of those "studies" of all those HCQ really serious "issues" from the 60 years up until 1-1-2020 before Wuhan virus politics came on to the scene.

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Where are you getting this info? There is NO legitimate scientific study that totally verifies this. The closest thing is the Ford study that says it MAY help under certain hospital conditions. And even that is disputed. Hopefully you understand that it's best to trust science over blogs and tik tok videos. And politicians.
Hopefully you understand that every "scientific" pronouncement over everything having to do with this pandemic has been countered by an exactly opposite "scientific" pronouncement. Or have you noticed. You know like the Faucian science that said handshaking will forever be a shunned quaint custom worldwide starting months back. Oh and before that, the Faucian "science" that face masks are unproductive. And before that, the Trump-subversive Pelosian "science" of "come on down to Chinatown and party" at the start of the pandemic, for Chinese New Year.

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Alex Jones, is that you?
Well here we are weeks later and It does not appear that anytime in the HISTORY of humanity has anything worked to curtail the number of infected individuals over the course of a pandemic. Or to curtail the pandemic time duration. Unless you have "scientific" references to refute -- have at it or is this just an exercise in sneering snideness.

Apparently we ARE successful at stretching out the time duration which is an ironic result of the desperate steps we are taking to 'end the pandemic' as if there were ever a pandemic in world history that humans succeeded at 'ending'. We can stretch it out as long as desired with our ubiquitous sanitizer, gloves, masks, 'social distancing', and forced unemployment and apparently can slam down the civilization to as desperate a low point as desired so as to get the election results as desired.

So one thing that could be tried in order to curtail the time duration would be to completely open the economy, no social distancing, get people back to work, full employment and let the pandemic take its quickest course, and to prevent overloading the hospitals, have billions and billions of doses of HCQ && 2Zn+ && AZ at the ready so that the vast majority can recover at home. The virus would then have nowhere to go except the countries that want to keep stretching this out.

Links:
https://thinkpol.ca/2020/07/03/ny-st...jESEK0018yEBp8

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...merican-lives/

Here is a letter from Henry Ford Medical explaining to you skeptics how the whole HCQ question has been impossibly politicized, since you don't seem to understand or at least pretend not to: https://www.mlive.com/public-interes...JfO_1zEj6BH9JE

Newsweek:
https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeati...wBNUPm2rvQXY00

Video asks why do all of the studies debunking the utility of HCQ apparently and intentionally leave out the 2Zn+ part of the regimen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMW...LZ2tsRPLdwrH4c

I dare you ppl in opposition above to read all of these links and consider the points in the video. Sneering not necessary.

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Old 08-10-2020, 09:45 AM
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TMC shows it down from 52% of ICU capacity to 37%.

Trend of new hospitalizations is down to early June's rate and about 1/3 of the late June peak. Still about double the rate of late May before Memorial Day weekend and the protests.

The sky has not been falling for the last 4 weeks.
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Old 08-10-2020, 09:52 AM
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TMC shows it down from 52% of ICU capacity to 37%.

Trend of new hospitalizations is down to early June's rate and about 1/3 of the late June peak. Still about double the rate of late May before Memorial Day weekend and the protests.

The sky has not been falling for the last 4 weeks.
This is quite misleading. While the hospitalizations are falling, the Texas Medical Center reports normal ICU capacity remains FULL as of Aug 9 and they continue to operate in Phase II excess ICU capacity.

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/
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Old 08-10-2020, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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TMC shows it down from 52% of ICU capacity to 37%.
Yes, I noticed that as well. The ICU's are still right at the Phase II level though, so they're full, but with far less Covid patients as you point out. Must be patients that had surgical cases and procedures delayed for the past few weeks. Or maybe trauma.
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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This is quite misleading. While the hospitalizations are falling, the Texas Medical Center reports normal ICU capacity remains FULL as of Aug 9 and they continue to operate in Phase II excess ICU capacity.

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/
By their own metrics, theyre going in the right direction:

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...ation-metrics/
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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TMC shows it down from 52% of ICU capacity to 37%.

Trend of new hospitalizations is down to early June's rate and about 1/3 of the late June peak. Still about double the rate of late May before Memorial Day weekend and the protests.

The sky has not been falling for the last 4 weeks.
The sky has not been falling in Houston but the state has moved into the Top 5 in terms of number of deaths.
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Old 08-10-2020, 10:27 AM
fnh
 
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By their own metrics, theyre going in the right direction:

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...ation-metrics/
I pointed out that hospitalizations are falling* but claiming that the ICUs are at 37% capacity without acknowledging that capacity includes Phase II & III added emergency capacity is very misleading.

*Houston specific
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Old 08-10-2020, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I pointed out that hospitalizations are falling* but claiming that the ICUs are at 37% capacity without acknowledging that capacity includes Phase II & III added emergency capacity is very misleading.

*Houston specific
I think bu2 means that the percent of patients in the ICU who are Covid patients is now around 37%, down from the high of over 50%, not that the ICU's are only 37% full. That wouldn't make much sense at all, because the ICU's routinely run at 70%-80% capacity nearly all the time. ICU beds are very expensive to run and hospitals don't just let them sit around unused.
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