HSV potential city for relocation of Boeing jetliner facility (Huntsville: fit in, 2014)

[dan25678]

I prefer slow, steady high tech growth. Our roads cant handle another big influx of cars. Hwy 72, 20, and the Parkway are packed.

I think HSV is just a bargaining chip for Boeing.

[Wandering_Missourian]

It's not over yet... the Washington machinists just rejected the counteroffer:
Boeing says Machinists reject 777X counteroffer : Business

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by Wandering_Missourian

It's not over yet... the Washington machinists just rejected the counteroffer:
Boeing says Machinists reject 777X counteroffer : Business

So the new plant obviously won't be in Washington. It will be in whatever right to work state wins the bid.

[Airforceguy]

Boeing to move up to 1,200 research jobs from Washington - Puget Sound Business Journal

[dijkstra]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

So the new plant obviously won't be in Washington. It will be in whatever right to work state wins the bid.

I believe you are right. That was probably the nail in the coffin. It is hard to believe they would rather the jobs leave than agree to a competitive contract. Of course, we have seen this with unions for the last 20 years. They pretty much destroyed Detroit.

It is like they have blinders on and follow along with the union thinking Boeing is bluffing. All they have to do is do a little reading on the decline of the union and the movement of jobs to right to work states over the past couple of decades. I guess a light will come on in a couple of years when they are unemployed and struggle to find a job that pays even half what they were making at Boeing not to mention their benefits package.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by dijkstra

I believe you are right. That was probably the nail in the coffin. It is hard to believe they would rather the jobs leave than agree to a competitive contract. Of course, we have seen this with unions for the last 20 years. They pretty much destroyed Detroit.

It is like they have blinders on and follow along with the union thinking Boeing is bluffing. All they have to do is do a little reading on the decline of the union and the movement of jobs to right to work states over the past couple of decades. I guess a light will come on in a couple of years when they are unemployed and struggle to find a job that pays even half what they were making at Boeing not to mention their benefits package.

If you read the link supplied by AirforceGuy, earlier this year Boeing announced that they would move IT jobs out of Washington to other places in the country. Now they've announced they are moving 1200 research jobs out of Washington and 200-300 research jobs out of California, to Alabama, Missouri, and South Carolina.

Boeing is not the only airplane manufacturer. Striking workers could cause delay of Boeing airplanes and in the long run hurt their sames (Airbus, Embraer of Brazil, Bombardier of Canada and Comac of China are other airplane manufacturers).

[MisterEd51]

Boeing is not out of the woods yet. After all in 2011 the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) tried to close a new plant in South Carolina that Boeing had spent three years and $2 billon to build. We will have to wait and see if the NLRB and the unions try to blackmail them again.

[Seth Parker]

It looks like the members are happy with the deal. It's the union leadership (of course) that's screwing them and trying to hold out for a better deal. I think they'll still have one more shot at it. If they don't take that one........hello new Boeing plant in Huntsville (or wherever they choose).

[MisterEd51]

Originally Posted by Seth Parker

It looks like the members are happy with the deal. It's the union leadership (of course) that's screwing them and trying to hold out for a better deal. I think they'll still have one more shot at it. If they don't take that one........hello new Boeing plant in Huntsville (or wherever they choose).

It is one thing to bargain with the unions but it is another when the federal government interferes with things. The federal government has almost unlimited power and money and could destroy Boeing if it wishes. The current administration seems content to do the wishes of the labor unions. It is more interested in union power than jobs.

[Seth Parker]

Originally Posted by MisterEd51

It is one thing to bargain with the unions but it is another when the federal government interferes with things. The federal government has almost unlimited power and money and could destroy Boeing if it wishes. The current administration seems content to do the wishes of the labor unions. It is more interested in union power than jobs.

I'm not going to disagree with you, but that's a rabbit hole that I don't have time to go down today .