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Old 07-15-2010, 08:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 1751texan View Post
that is the point...employers can hire who they like...

my example is not good because it doesnt fit into your little theory that increased bilingual hires equals increased illegal immigration. I know what point your trying to put forth.

What proof do you have that any discrimination is taking place...none, or you would have citied it.

and Ill simply state the Fact that in America, an employer can hire whom he like...like it or not.

and PLUS this thread has Nothing to do with I.I. and it sure dont have anything to do with real discrimniation of anyone.
Nice to know that you don't mind that this phenomenom is happening only because of illegal immigration and yes you missed that point again.

What proof do I have that there is discrimination against native English speakers in hiring practices? Are you kidding me? Look in any newpaper's employment ads and you will see ads that say "bilingual required".

The title of this thread indeed has a connection to illegal immigration because that is why employers are insisting on hiring Spanish speakers. Most Hispanic Americans know how to speak English so there is no reason for employers to do business with them in Spanish.

 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:17 AM
 
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a business has the right to hire whom ever they like to take care of any customer he likes...whether you like it or not.
Really? Does a business have the right to hire illegals? Technically, siince it's illegal to hire illegals I'd suppose that businesses DON'T have the RIGHT to hire illegals. So it does make me angry that so many businesses advertise for bilingual, Spanish speaking of course, employees, since there just aren't that many legal hispanics that don't speak English to account for the number of bilinguals advertised for. You'd think that ICE, before John Morton of course, would just read the newspaper and investigate any business that advertised for bilingual employees to see if the business is indeed hiring illegals.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Miami / Florida / U.S.A.
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I sucks that your average American cant get certain jobs cause they cant speak Spanish, all the jobs my g/f wants or can apply to want a billingual person, this is mostly how it is in South TX and Albuquerque. We shouldnt have to learn a different language to work in our own country and city.

yes its cool that people are different everywhere and we have diversity but those that come to live here should learn the language, my dad's first language was Spanish and he learned how to speak English,(were Spanish btw,not Mexican) he grew up in Eastern NM and Spanish was banned from schools so he was forced to learn, now days people can get by without ever learning the language.

In Northwest NM, there were ads that said "Native preffered" ,if it said "White person preffered" people would be outraged. I just dont think its right, I dont believe in singling out races.
The first European language spoken in the U.S.A. was Spanish. (Saint Augustine Florida)

Go back to school.

Euro people invented the Spanish language.

Euro Spanish people discovered America, the continent, including the U.S.A.

The USA was colonized by the Spanish first, then the French, and the British last.

I DONT care if Someone speaks French, Spanish or English. All those languages are part of the U.S. culture.

OP: please, go back to school, or just wikipedia search: USA.

History of USA.

learn...dude...LEARN.

this is why foreign people make stupid youtube videos showing how stupid a few U.S. nationals can be.



BTW, if you ever come to F L O R I D A. YOU better speak perfect English and Spanish or you will be unemployed!


and you live in TEXAS a place where Spanish was spoken before English.

Dude...learn about your state´s history. lol...


Before TEXAS was annexed to the UNION, different parts of Texas were colonized by Spain and France, and some where parts of Mexico.

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Old 07-15-2010, 09:29 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Really? Does a business have the right to hire illegals? Technically, siince it's illegal to hire illegals I'd suppose that businesses DON'T have the RIGHT to hire illegals. So it does make me angry that so many businesses advertise for bilingual, Spanish speaking of course, employees, since there just aren't that many legal hispanics that don't speak English to account for the number of bilinguals advertised for. You'd think that ICE, before John Morton of course, would just read the newspaper and investigate any business that advertised for bilingual employees to see if the business is indeed hiring illegals.
when an employer hires a english-french-spanish italian speaking person how on earth is that hiring an illegal. get real.

do you watch spanish language televison, or listen to spanish language radio?...I do. Guess what, the advertisement is in spanish...go figure that one out.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:31 AM
 
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Yes!! It does!!! Most of the discriminating employment advertisers want "spanish speaking illegals" rather than people that are "law obeying citizens". Do you wonder who is steering this ship in America??? Well, they breed like rabbits. It's no wonder that they "only want" spanish speakers only.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:32 AM
 
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:40 AM
 
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The first European language spoken in the U.S.A. was Spanish. (Saint Augustine Florida)

Go back to school.

Euro people invented the Spanish language.

Euro Spanish people discovered America, the continent, including the U.S.A.

The USA was colonized by the Spanish first, then the French, and the British last.

I DONT care if Someone speaks French, Spanish or English. All those languages are part of the U.S. culture.

OP: please, go back to school, or just wikipedia search: USA.

History of USA.

learn...dude...LEARN.

this is why foreign people make stupid youtube videos showing how stupid a few U.S. nationals can be.



BTW, if you ever come o F L O R I D A. YOU better speak perfect English and Spanish or you will be unemployed!


and you live in TEXAS a place where Spanish was spoken before English.

Dude...learn about your state´s history. lol...


Before TEXAS was annexed to the UNION, different parts of Texas were colonized by Spain and France, and some where parts of Mexico.
Early languages spoken is irrelevant including German, Polish, Italian and other European langauges spoken. The fact remains that English has been adopted as our de facto national language and it represents our identity as a nation not other foreign langauges.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:45 AM
 
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when an employer hires a english-french-spanish italian speaking person how on earth is that hiring an illegal. get real.

do you watch spanish language televison, or listen to spanish language radio?...I do. Guess what, the advertisement is in spanish...go figure that one out.
Employers advertising for bi-lingual workers are not only hiring illegals but Hispanic Americans also over native English speakers. It isn't fair when a non-hispanic American has to compete for a job with equal skills but the Hispanic American gets the job just so they can communicate with illegal alien Spanish speaker customers. I guess money is everything, isn't it?

I am sure those advertisements in Spanish are also intended to reach illegal alien Spanish speakers because as it was already pointed out to you most Hispanic Americans know how to speak English.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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Early languages spoken is irrelevant including German, Polish, Italian and other European langauges spoken. The fact remains that English has been adopted as our de facto national language and it represents our identity as a nation not other foreign langauges.
even that little factoid doesnt forbid American Employers to conduct business for their clientele in any language they choose; Even Spanish.
There is no law which makes English one of America's official langueges. In fact Spanish is also a prominant American language.


"de facto"...A Latin Expression, that means standard that is a custom, convention, or system that has achieved a dominant position by public acceptance.
 
Old 07-15-2010, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Miami / Florida / U.S.A.
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Early languages spoken is irrelevant including German, Polish, Italian and other European langauges spoken. The fact remains that English has been adopted as our de facto national language and it represents our identity as a nation not other foreign langauges.
THE USA is composed by the former colonies of Britain, Spain, and France.

If a texan employer wants to hire bilinguals, that is because the potential customers/clients speak Spanish or French or any other language.

Any person in any country who wants to get a job in a fortune 500 company MUST be bilingual or trilingual.

THE WORLD IS GLOBALIZED.

English is the primary requirement overseas. If you live in France, and want to be an accountant for KPMG, you must know English, Spanish, french, italian, etc,....

If you live in Argentina, or Brazil, English is a requirement to get a job in engineering, etc..

The Scandinavian countries are all trilinguals..

the rischest countries in the world have a bilingual population.

Companies must make money and have to sell their products to foreign markets and bilingual/trilinguals workers are needed.

Now, texas is the state with the secong highest number of Fortune 500 companies. Texas is a a money making monster.

if Nike in texas wants to hire U:S. nationals who speak mandarin I dont care.

if Coca Cola wants to hire bilingual Spanish workers I dont care.

The human resorces departments of every company make a study of the type of workers they need in order to capture the best human RESOURCE for their companies.

I speak , English, Spanish, and basic Ialian. My wife is sicilian.

English will always be the primary language of the USA. always. English is the primary language of the world!
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