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Originally Posted by bullandre
If you're a visa overstay, that might work. Remember that the bulk of these people are Mexicans who just simply crossed without inspection.
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Entered the country without authorization, and it is a crime!
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Originally Posted by lvmensch
Your post is more unmitigated BS. Hispanics left AZ over the hostile climate. And finally you throw the unbelievably biased Sheriff out hopefully just before the Feds send him to jail. Deliberate and unlawful raids on people of a particular minority...and you think it was good.
Hispanics in general support the illegals much more than any other demographic. Fact of life.
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Well, considering many of the Hispanics are either anchor babies, dreamers or illegals themselves, it would make sense that those Hispanics favored illegals. Only about 40% of Hispanics are eligible to vote, think about it.
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Originally Posted by Packard fan
Not a thing bad about making life tough for illegal aliens. BTW: not all "Hispanic" people are illegal aliens and, not all illegals are "Latino".
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As we know, they are now using the legal immigrants who are Hispanic or born American citizens for their cause.
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Originally Posted by coldwine
Exhibit A: exporting illegal immigrants is going to dramatically lower the average IQ of those we're left with.
In the long-run, this does not affect me. But it does affect people such as yourself. Inasmuch as I would squander a wish, I would find it deeply amusing if you could see beyond your dim present and into the future you are cheering for.
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You don't appear to be well-informed about the "quality" of the illegal aliens coming in. They are uneducated and, frankly, most are unemployable thus the anchor baby making business they engage in.
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Originally Posted by The Dark Enlightenment
You think illegal immigrants have higher average IQs than Americans?
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Well, maybe the 1 in every 8 white collars workers who are taking jobs from Americans. It isn't a matter of IQ for most since they are uneducated.
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010
Tragic and uncomfortable deportations are kind of inevitable. The underlying cause is that the entire illegal alien issue got out of control and the government's response was to ignore it. You're never going to be able to clean up the whole mess without hurting a lot of people. No matter which direction you go with trying to solve the problem, it's going to hurt a lot of people. The problem is too big and involves too many people. That's unfortunate.
I'm all for any suggestions. How should Trump handle it differently? Personally, I'd rather see a penalty, a path to citizenship, and greatly simplified immigration policies. But the worst thing that can possibly happen is for the government to continue doing nothing and ignoring the problem.
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Just enforce the law. We cannot reward people for criminal behavior. At a cost of more than $13 billion per year in taxpayer dollars, I would think it would be fairly simple to understand the purpose of our immigration laws and that isn't even taking into account the crime, often rape of our children and murder.
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Originally Posted by natalie469
And what exactly did he do wrong. Trump said he was going to go after the criminals. So why not start with the MS 13 gangs instead of splitting hard working families apart who have done nothing.
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They are all criminals. Illegal aliens are criminals when they cross the border without authorization. Trump isn't doing this himself, simply letting border patrol/ICE do their jobs. He had a deportation order from 2014.
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Originally Posted by neko_mimi
He entered the country illegally. Was that even a serious question?
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You would think by now, they would get it, but no.
Is it a Crime to Enter The U.S. Illegally? - AllLaw.com
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Originally Posted by natalie469
So what. Do you have any idea how our economy would be impacted if every illegal was deported. I don't think Trump does either.
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We could use that $113 billion plus in savings on taxes to pay higher wages so we could have citizens doing the jobs. It would be awesome!
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
So you're concerned you'd have to pay more for someone to cut your grass or bus your table?
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The tax savings should cover that. Haven't we felt that the real tears were over having to pay more for the services that mainly the wealthier Americans get as we subsidize the workers they underpay with our tax dollars?
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez
He entered our country illegally.
I'd also venture to guess that he also either broke our tax laws or stole someone's identity. Afterall, he couldn't work and pay taxes without falsifying someone's identification or else he wasn't filing his taxes. Well, I guess he may have been freeloading off us taxpayers. What do you think?[/QUOTE]
I think they do wonders for our economy and contribute much to our society.
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To our economy, think again:
The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013) and
Civil-rights commish: Blacks hammered by illegal immigration
And to our society, think again:
Victims of Illegal Aliens Memorial and
Illegal Aliens Committed 500 Child Sexual Assaults in North Carolina During January ⋆ UFP NEWS and
Mexican Illegal Alien Deported Ten Times Since 2010 Charged With Child Rape - Breitbart and it is costing our children when it comes to their educations:
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...school-budgets and it goes on and on.
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Originally Posted by natalie469
No the economy would not be fine. Have you not seen the studies. Who do you think does the grunt work like cleaning toilets and making beds in hotel rooms, cleaning homes and businesses....etc. What american do you think wants to do these jobs. Farmers need workers. Who do you think is going to do that work.
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Ever heard of "google"?
Are There Really Jobs Americans Won and
https://www.numbersusa.com/resource-...ricans-wont-do and
Illegal Immigration: The Impact on Wages and Employment of Black Workers | Center for Immigration Studies
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Originally Posted by natalie469
Companies are always advertising for help with house cleaning and other menial jobs. What I think is that most americans don't want this kind of job. If you can tell me how many americans are looking for these kind of jobs but can't get them because of undocumented workers then I'm up to listening
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What we know is that if the government paid to raise our kids, gave us subsidized housing and daddy only visited the house to make more anchors, we could afford to work for less too!
Undocumented workers are fine. Just hook them up with the state records department where they were born and they can get a copy of their US birth certificate. Simply not having documents isn't a big deal, we had to send to 3 different states to gather all of ours.
I am sick of subsidizing those who need "menial" tasks done and don't want to pay enough to hire a citizen worker. They need to take care of their own kids, mow their own lawns and clean their own toilets!
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Originally Posted by natalie469
If I provided you a link you would just call it fake news. So I would suggest you look it up yourself.
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As you probably will with mine. The bottom line is that it is a crime to enter the US without authorization. If you need menial jobs done and can't afford to pay a citizen wages to do it, you'll have to either get a better job or an extra job, or do your own menial jobs, I'm tired of subsiding the cleaning of rich people's toilets with my tax dollars!
Let's not forget that he had a DUI and deportation order, and that they were aware of the consequences and had discussed it.
Illegal aliens and DUI:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/30...l-drivers.html
I cannot imagine that anyone that cares about our country supports illegal immigration unless they have a direct link to it.
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