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And that kind of thing has been going on for decades. I remember when I lived in Tucson there was an illegal woman hiding in a church who the INS wanted to deport. People had "Free Rosa" signs on their lawns and money was taken up to help her. There are immigrants rights groups that help these people. But that is very different than the feds handing out $5000 gift cards.
If you want to stop that kind of thing states or the feds need to pass a law that assisting illegals in any way including free legal help or handing them money is a felony offense. It would be aiding and abetting a wanted criminal. I would be fine with that.
Aiding and abetting is still a crime although it should be made a felony.
Those as in the incident that you described above were more than likely Latinos themselves. Ethnic ties and all you know. Most of these so-called immigrant right's groups are likely made of of the same ethnic group to. It's a false title anyway. It's not about immigrant rights it's about aiding and abetting illegal aliens and they aren't plain ole immigrants that come here legally.
And that kind of thing has been going on for decades. I remember when I lived in Tucson there was an illegal woman hiding in a church who the INS wanted to deport. People had "Free Rosa" signs on their lawns and money was taken up to help her. There are immigrants rights groups that help these people. But that is very different than the feds handing out $5000 gift cards.
If you want to stop that kind of thing states or the feds need to pass a law that assisting illegals in any way including free legal help or handing them money is a felony offense. It would be aiding and abetting a wanted criminal. I would be fine with that.
A felony to hand a dollar to a person on the street or give a bag of groceries to a mom who needs to feed her children? That is a special kind of cruelty that you are endorsing, not to mention completely unenforceable.
A felony to hand a dollar to a person on the street or give a bag of groceries to a mom who needs to feed her children? That is a special kind of cruelty that you are endorsing, not to mention completely unenforceable.
Depends on who one is giving the charity to. If it's for illegal aliens it doesn't matter if they are moms with kids. Our immigration laws apply to them to. Nothing cruel about it. Give to an American mom who is needy.
Depends on who one is giving the charity to. If it's for illegal aliens it doesn't matter if they are moms with kids. Our immigration laws apply to them to. Nothing cruel about it. Give to an American mom who is needy.
And how many of these so-called "migrants" have you helped by taking them into your home? Since you are cheering on this invasion, then we all can assume that you are not just talking the talk but are also walking the walk, correct?
I have my doubts this is true. It would be horrific if it was. I think its a politician running for office trying to get attention. The Pinal sheriff before Lamb was a big right wing anti immigration dude who in reality was a closeted gay man living with a gay illegal alien. Before that he was a regular on Fox News touting his tough anti illegal posture.
May or may not be true. We have a lot of things we heard be said they were not true, only to be followed up with photos and videos of it happening. The feds may be giving monies to charities to pass out, as I believe this is to be what is actually happening. A "covert" way to do it, and deny that they did.
Also note that a Mexican national is not necessarily a illegal alien, but would be subject to deportation under certain conditions.
I lived in Tucson for 6 years. I am familiar with the area. That is where my younger son with developmental disabilities was denied the speech therapy he NEEDED as ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE was a part of Special Education and the priority, thus no money for his speech therapy, so my son with no language didn't matter as much as someone whose first language was Spanish.
Because we have been lied to so many times. I know they are passing out gift cards, and my bet is that charities are getting most, if not all, the money from the taxpayers.
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Did you read the article? There is no proof this is actually happening. You posted a rumor spread by a candidate trying to drum up support. PT Barnum was absolutely right.
There is no proof that it isn't happening. How are these people living without a job or income once they get in the country. I know some prostitute, and I suppose some have come to join gains, run drugs for the cartels, etc.
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Good for them. Sounds like they need help.
Not really. They need to be turned around at the border, as per the laws of our country.
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And I agree with everything you have said. Citizens of NYC do not deserve this mess. Yes alot of Americans voted for this mess. Sadly I imagine many will vote for it again in 2024. Biden and his cronies need to be removed. Let's face it Charities and the Corporate World looking for cheap labor are all contributing to this invasion. Shut them down. My hope is very soon things really hit the fan, and finally the American people say Enough is Enough.
Excellent post!
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Yes it did. You just did not like what I said. I used to live in Pinal County. They have a rep for having crackpot sheriffs who like to self promote, I pointed out an example for someone who was wondering if this story was true. There is no evidence that illegals are given $5,000 gift cards. I agree they should not be allowed in. But making up or promoting lies weakens that argument. I say stick to the facts which are more than enough.
I lived in Pima County. There is "no evidence" doesn't mean squat either, as that is what the liberals always say, and the CDC and FDA. If you don't look for evidence, you won't find evidence.
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And that kind of thing has been going on for decades. I remember when I lived in Tucson there was an illegal woman hiding in a church who the INS wanted to deport. People had "Free Rosa" signs on their lawns and money was taken up to help her. There are immigrants rights groups that help these people. But that is very different than the feds handing out $5000 gift cards.
If you want to stop that kind of thing states or the feds need to pass a law that assisting illegals in any way including free legal help or handing them money is a felony offense. It would be aiding and abetting a wanted criminal. I would be fine with that.
There is a law, as they aren't supposed to be in the country anyway. I don't want to help them. We have more than 1/2 million homeless, families trying to raise money to cover medical expenses for their children as the health insurance company won't pay it, almost 80% of the medical bankruptcy had health insurance, so the only answer is "detain and deport".
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A felony to hand a dollar to a person on the street or give a bag of groceries to a mom who needs to feed her children? That is a special kind of cruelty that you are endorsing, not to mention completely unenforceable.
That is why we need to just "detain and deport". They'll be fine, as they were having sex in the hallways of the $500 a day hotels, so I am sure they are dropping anchor babies like there is no tomorrow, and those babies will get the full array of public assistancee, which entitles them to public housing, going to the top of the list with their family while singles and couples wait.
"So the feds are maybe not directly funding the aliens but certainly are indirectly." And so you admit that the original story is false and you do the pretzel-twist to support it anyway. If someone wants to post about indirect assistance to immigrants, why isn't the post about that instead of spreading false and inflammatory inaccuracies? I would say "hahaha" but it is not funny how so many people are vulnerable to this sort of manipulation into self-righteous frenzies over something that is not true.
Further, all children residing in the US have the right to an education, regardless of immigrant status, no matter how we feel about it. This was decided by the Supreme Court more than 40 years ago. Until there is a ruling from the Supreme Court that changes it, this is not a "Joe Biden" issue. As a Democrat, I am concerned about the funds dedicated to the children of the undocumented, since it is often consuming resources in neighborhoods where the children of US citizens need the most help. However, refusing to educate children who are living here would create its own forms of harm. This is a difficult issue and I do support more control at the border, although one giant wall is not the answer, as success in breaching the current sections of wall have proven.
Our school superintendent told a crowd that school taxes were being paid on the house where the kids lived. That meant they were entitled to come to a public school.
There is no proof that it isn't happening. How are these people living without a job or income once they get in the country. I know some prostitute, and I suppose some have come to join gains, run drugs for the cartels, etc.
They're living on gift cards? You obviously don't understand cost of living or even what things cost. Yes, they're all prostitutes, gang bangers, and drug dealers I'm sure. Turn off the damn Fox News. Curious who you think is working in slaughterhouses, picking crops, working menial construction jobs, and cleaning hotels. Quite a few of them are illegal immigrants and I assure you they're not living off gift cards. For the record, I agree we can't just let people cross the border en masse, there needs to be a solution of some sort. If you respond to this with the words liberal, communist, socialist, Marxist, or woke I'm going to refer you back to the previous sentence.
You should start a thread like this with analogies. That one was perfect...
Like calling a calling a Hamas terrorist a freedom fighter
Or calling a rapist, an unlicensed gynecologist.
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