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I'd love to see you stand in front of the parents and grown kids of immigrants in this country and tell them they aren't a benefit to us.
By the way, your ancestors invaded the land of Native Americans and pushed them off their land to settle on it. Your ancestors were also illegal immigrants.
And don't post any crap about coming to America legally. There weren't the rules and regulations as we know them today back before the 1880s. If there were, half this forum would still be in the old country after their parents and grandparents were sent back.
Don't tell me, tell Reagan. He's the first president to welcome thousands of illegals into the country.
Those aren't facts I made up. Read it and weep.
Why Immigrants' Children Do Better in School
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/im...ry?id=17284688
"Children who immigrate to the United States with their families are likely to outperform kids with a similar background who were born here. And when they grow up, their own children are also likely to do better than their peers."
"The advance of science is dependent upon collaboration, which does not have a visa attached to it. Indeed, over 40% of all American-based Nobel Prize winners are immigrants, and data from the National Science Foundation show that 49% of postdocs and 29% of science and engineering faculty in the US are foreign-born."
More U.S. Scientists and Engineers Are Foreign-Born
And every single child of immigrants are outperforming American students? Gimme a break. As I pointed out already (and you ignored it) illegal aliens and anchor babies don't outperform Americans. They have, for the most part, parents who have little to no education and don't value education. They encourage their children to drop out of high school and go to work. The parents don't bother to learn English and thus, their kids come to school not knowing any English and the Spanish they do know is atrocious. These kids don't even know the colors and can't tell red from blue. Teachers will tell you that these kids never fully catch up. Before you trot out an illegal alien or anchor baby who did well in school, keep in mind the few that are out there are diamonds in the rough and not typical.
Then you insult Americans and claim they can't do math or science. We have plenty of bright students who can do jobs that require such knowledge but by allowing a glut of H1-Bs into the country, many Americans can't find work or do find it and get replaced by visa holders.
Once again, I'll explain it to you. Teachers are overwhelmed with trying to teach students who come to school not knowing English. In such settings, the kids who do come to school prepared are the ones who suffer.
Take a look at this link which talks about what schools and teachers have to deal with these days:
Per the bolded --- You twisted what I said---and you know it, too. What I said was that they never fully master a new language after age 12. Fully mastering a language means learning to speak it without an accent
All those stats you're crowing about---Were all those "postdocs" born to illegal aliens? Or did they immigrate after having gotten an education in their own countries? We all know the answer----it's the latter. If these people are here on H1-Bs, many talented Americans end up being displaced in the work force.
Back in the 1880s, there were immigration laws. So just stop with the insults. People who came were processed and checked for diseases. You are apparently unaware that not everybody who showed up at Ellis Island was allowed to remain in the country. Many were sent back on the boat that brought them here. And regarding your remark about the Native American Indians, even their ancestors came here from elsewhere. Not to mention that when Europeans arrived here, there was no country and thus no immigration laws to break.
You can't compare how things were over 100 years ago to what is happening today.
And, yes, Reagan did do an amnesty. I think everybody who posts in this form is well aware of that fact. He agreed to it because the democrats promised that it would be the one and only amnesty ever to happen (We've had several stealth amnesties since then). The democrats also promised that the border would be secured (Of course it never was fully secured and definitely not during these nightmarish days now). The democrats also promised that no illegal alien would ever be able to work in the US (Right now we have 8 million no-match SSNs in the work force plus far too many Americans have been victims of ID theft by illegal aliens). I was no fan of Reagan's. Before he was stricken with Alzheimer's he regretted trusting the democrats. Too little, too late.
Do you seriously think that these millions of so-called "migrants" who have flooded into this country non-stop as of late are all a benefit to our country? Do you think they are all math and science geniuses?
Those two guys in the video wouldn't last one minute in Africa.
It's one thing to dislike and protest migrants being dropped off in their neighborhood (which I agree with).
It's another to ridicule these people and call them the n-word.
Can you imagine the outcry if these two guys were white instead of bi-racial?
I've lost all respect for the Hodge Twins. And anyone who still supports the Hodge Twins after this, I just can't respect that.
To be honest, I think this is why some people like the Hodge Twins. Because they are biracial, they can be used to use racist terms, to do the the dirty work that would get a White person in trouble. Who is going to complain, other than some Black people, when it's biracial individuals using the "N" word?
I hate to break this to you guys, but if an American moves to say, France, their kids are not going to be taught in English in a French school.
Well, it might be beneficial in that we have people who don't deny science, claim the earth is flat, and can actually read and write. Also, unlike most Americans, these kids will be able to speak a second language.
You might also consider that by the time these non-speakers graduate, hopefully they will be American citizens and vested in this country. They might be serving in our armed forces and maybe even elected into office, where it's hoped they will work more and smarter than the boneheads that are in Congress now.
They won't be competition. They'll be us.
Well, aren't they?
Why it matters that Americans are comparatively bad at math
"In the most recent Program for International Student Assessment tests in math, or PISA, U.S. students scored lower than their counterparts in 36 other education systems worldwide. Students in China scored the highest."
"According to the Nation's Report Card, the largest continuing and nationally representative assessment of academic performance in the U.S., only 25 percent of American students in the eighth grade scored “at or above NAEP (National Assessment of Educational Progress) proficient” in geography."
"Biennial testing through NAEP consistently shows that two thirds of U.S. children are unable to read with proficiency. An astounding 40 percent are essentially nonreaders."
And if you're wondering about grammar and spelling, all you have to do is check out this thread on City-Data:
There's been studies done that show in the first generation of immigrants, their kids do well in school and excel in their studies. This is usually because their parents value education and want their kids to do well. By the third generation, the great-grandkids of the original immigrants, their performances in school now resemble those of the kids of non-immigrant parents or grandparents.
So that should make you happy.
I agree we make it easy to not learn English by allowing everything to be printed in native languages. But I disagree that kids need to be younger than 12 to learn a new language capably. One example that comes to mind is the lead singer from Steppenwolf. Ever heard him do an interview? His mother brought him from Germany to Canada when he was 14, not speaking any English except what he learned over the radio.
Were the 2012 study participants illegal immigrants (illegal immigration forum) or are you conflating highly educated legal immigrants with the millions of illegals crossing our borders yearly?
I'd love to see you stand in front of the parents and grown kids of immigrants in this country and tell them they aren't a benefit to us.
By the way, your ancestors invaded the land of Native Americans and pushed them off their land to settle on it. Your ancestors were also illegal immigrants.
And don't post any crap about coming to America legally. There weren't the rules and regulations as we know them today back before the 1880s. If there were, half this forum would still be in the old country after their parents and grandparents were sent back.
Don't tell me, tell Reagan. He's the first president to welcome thousands of illegals into the country.
Those aren't facts I made up. Read it and weep.
Why Immigrants' Children Do Better in School
https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/im...ry?id=17284688
"Children who immigrate to the United States with their families are likely to outperform kids with a similar background who were born here. And when they grow up, their own children are also likely to do better than their peers."
"The advance of science is dependent upon collaboration, which does not have a visa attached to it. Indeed, over 40% of all American-based Nobel Prize winners are immigrants, and data from the National Science Foundation show that 49% of postdocs and 29% of science and engineering faculty in the US are foreign-born."
More U.S. Scientists and Engineers Are Foreign-Born
The topic isn't immigrants it's about illegal aliens. Are you confused?
My ancestors did no such thing. They came through Ellis Island under the immigration laws in place at the time. They didn't come here hundreds of years ago. The U.S. has been a country with internationally recognized borders since 1776. So no, my ancestors were not illegal aliens. There were no native Americans anyway as all of our ancestors migrated here including those of the Amerindians.
Reagan did not welcome illegal aliens they were already here and he granted them amnesty with the promise that the Democrats would secure the border. That was for 3 million compared to the over 30 million we have here today. Well that didn't happen and he lived to regret signing that amnesty. Yeah, rewarding them sure solved the problem, didn't it? Look what we have today now!
ABC is just another lying media source. Why do they use the word plain ole immigrants to describe these adults and children? Blurring the lines between legal and illegal is what they do so you don't know WTH group they are talking about.
Americans can't do science? WTH does that even mean? We have plenty of American scientists and engineers.
Your whole post is filled with nothing but anti-American crap.
Conflating the two happens a lot on this forum. This false conflation fools no one, but some posters keep trying to slip it through.
Oh, not just in this forum. The pro-illegals do it all the time and everywhere. They refuse to call illegal aliens what they really are by calling them plain ole immigrants (or some stupid term like undocumented) so that it blurs the lines between legal and illegal. It's blantently dishonest but they fool no one.
Mexican President is part of problem as well why he allow hundreds thousands of people crossing Mexico to southern border they getting assistance. Mexico, Columbia, Brazil, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Panama are profiting off undocumented migrant crisis. The undocumented migrants have pay thousands to cartels and politicians. Canada, USA, Australia, Japan, South Korea, European Union, Saudi Arabia and rest need to agree changing asylum seeking law. Alejandro Mayorkas need to get removed from the job get something who have idea.
Mexico Wants Biden To Eliminate Sanctions On Venezuela And Cuba In Exchange For Border Assistance
Lopez Obrador said he’s willing to take actions to block the flow of migrants crossing Mexico’s border with Guatemala if the U.S. is willing to send more aid to migrants’ countries and eliminate or lower sanctions against Cuba and Venezuela.
If lifting sanctions is what’s needed, so be it. What’s the point of teaching Venezuela and Cuba a lesson, when doing so results in us becoming those places.
People need to start thinking for themselves instead of parroting talking points or feebly attempting to retain a lame brained friend circle. WTF!
what difference does it make that they are African. We have nothing in place to accommodate all of these people flooding into the country wherever they're from..
Who's fault is it? ... Biden's ...... he knows we can't handle the influx, he doesn't care. Now he's going to have to do a 180 and adopt Trump's border policies. (after letting close to 10 million enter). An admission he screwed up the border his first 3 years in office. Will cost him any chance of getting re-elected.
If lifting sanctions is what’s needed, so be it. What’s the point of teaching Venezuela and Cuba a lesson, when doing so results in us becoming those places.
People need to start thinking for themselves instead of parroting talking points or feebly attempting to retain a lame brained friend circle. WTF!
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