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View Poll Results: Should we take care of migrants?
Yes, from the population according to their ability, to the migrants according to their needs 2 6.67%
Yes, we have to support all comers 1 3.33%
They are welcome to come but not get support 3 10.00%
They are welcome but should pay the fair market value of their encampments 3 10.00%
Other views, post away! 21 70.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-18-2024, 11:30 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
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No! Secure our borders, deport them, and send them back to where they came from. They are NOT migrants. They are invaders. We can't even take care of our own people who are paying the price for this. Stop the insanity!

Get in line, and do it the right way. Don't break our laws right off the bat, and jump in front of those who are lawful. Sickening.

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Old 01-18-2024, 01:02 PM
 
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Unless they are working, the people are not adding value at the present moment.
For some 'remote learning' would be considered a positive. Costs would be an arbitrary number but legit to factor in everything.
I gave you the numbers - illegals aren't adding value even when they are working - they are draining us.
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Old 01-18-2024, 01:13 PM
 
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I gave you the numbers - illegals aren't adding value even when they are working - they are draining us.
^^^^Well said I couldn't rep you again so I owe you one.
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Old 01-18-2024, 02:03 PM
 
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Send them back . That was done in the early 1900s , to the emigrants who were sick , destitute , or criminal and yes ,nearly all sent back ,some 95% of the deportees ,were Caucasian.
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Old 01-18-2024, 03:13 PM
 
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I gave you the numbers - illegals aren't adding value even when they are working - they are draining us.
I'll have to disagree with this. You gave numbers for some of their costs, which of course is a legitimate number to consider.
We have a roughly 27 trillion dollar economy.
We have a labor force of 160-170 million
Illegal workers perhaps 25-30 million. Around 20% of labor force.
If they only provided 5% to the economy that would be 1.35trillion yearly If they provided 2% it would be 540 billion.
In terms of dollars, I'm not convinced they haven't been earning their keep (As a group). We are being drained by druggies and deadbeats who won't work. We also have a huge military expense, and a lot of retired people that can no longer work, and a growing disabled population (Mentally & physically). It's been helpful to have a young illegal immigrant workforce, and it is high time we started getting them on the books as legal. It is too bad our immigration system hasn't worked right for decades, because we sure have needed the workers!
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Old 01-18-2024, 04:30 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I gave you the numbers - illegals aren't adding value even when they are working - they are draining us.
Exactly. The numbers don't lie, they are a net negative and they are draining us.

A new report by FAIR, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration, finds that as of 2022, American taxpayers shell out at least $150.7 billion each year to cover the cost of illegal immigration. Broken down, the data reveals that taxpayers pay $182 billion annually to provide services and benefits to illegal aliens and their dependents. These costs are offset by about $31 billion in taxes that are collected from the estimated 15.5 million illegal aliens living in the United States, bringing the net cost to $150.7 billion annually.

https://www.fairus.org/new-fair-repo...7-billion-year
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Old 01-18-2024, 06:16 PM
 
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The last thing we want in this country right now is uneducated, unvaccinated, and largely illiterate third-worlders.

Yes, the Democrats are desperate for votes, as they likely manipulated the last election. After 4 years of the idiot in the White House, there is NO WAY Biden would win re-election if everything was on the up and up.

So flood the country with illegals, get the NGOs out to "help" them vote, and guarantee his re-election.

This country is going to turn into a s**thole if this is not stopped. There's a reason those countries that the ILLEGAL ALIENS have vacated have been third-world countries since their inception.
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Old 01-19-2024, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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-DC greed fiends need more taxpayers to exploit.

-Dems need more uneducated sucker votes, because too many Americans have wised up to them.

-Fortune 500 needs more cheap labor.

The 99% are powerless to stop them, unless Trump, House, & Senate Pubs win by such a wide margin, that no level of Lib ballot harvesting can prevail.

If the 99% fail in November, the choice of taking care of illegals, or not, will be gone.
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