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Old 09-18-2009, 10:19 PM
 
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Pretty obvious to see who WOULD pass by on the other side of the road. "I was hungry and you gave me not to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink. I was naked and you clothed me not. I was in prison and you did not visit me. I was sick and you did not care for me. For whatsoever you did to the least of these you did to me. Depart from me. I never knew you."

"For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"

This country is in the process of losing its soul. We have become so greedy, so cold, so self absorbed that we really think that the only reason to do something is for profit....not because it is right.

"Father forgive them. They know not what they do."
Uhuh. Here's another bible verse for you to contemplate.

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'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
Meaning keep your hands off of things that are not yours.

Furthermore, when the Good Samaritan stopped to render aid to someone who was sick, was he then responsible for that person's care forever? Illegal aliens receive emergency medical treatment as mandated by law, which is the modern day counterpart of your Good Samaritan helping an ailing traveler. The Samaritan finds the injured man, tends to his wounds and takes him to an inn so he can recover. When the traveler recovers, I doubt that he expects the Good Samaritan to pay for any medical care he may need in the future. An illegal comes to an ER , he is evaluated and treated until his medical condition is stable and he can be discharged. The American healthcare system should no longer be responsible for his future care. There is a line between providing care in an actual emergency and being stuck with astronomical bills for things like dialysis and liver transplants for people who should not be in this country. The illegal aliens have shamelessly abused our charity and should be ashamed of themselves.

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Old 09-19-2009, 12:01 AM
 
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Pretty obvious to see who WOULD pass by on the other side of the road. "I was hungry and you gave me not to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink. I was naked and you clothed me not. I was in prison and you did not visit me. I was sick and you did not care for me. For whatsoever you did to the least of these you did to me. Depart from me. I never knew you."

"For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"

This country is in the process of losing its soul. We have become so greedy, so cold, so self absorbed that we really think that the only reason to do something is for profit....not because it is right.

"Father forgive them. They know not what they do."
Somebody call the wambulence.

I've learned that whenever someone starts quoting the Bible in a political discussion, that person probably isn't too bright. You do nothing to dispel that notion.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:21 AM
 
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Pretty obvious to see who WOULD pass by on the other side of the road. "I was hungry and you gave me not to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink. I was naked and you clothed me not. I was in prison and you did not visit me. I was sick and you did not care for me. For whatsoever you did to the least of these you did to me. Depart from me. I never knew you."

"For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"

This country is in the process of losing its soul. We have become so greedy, so cold, so self absorbed that we really think that the only reason to do something is for profit....not because it is right.

"Father forgive them. They know not what they do."

Totally agree, many people only think about themselves, with a heart full of greed, that's why they are easy victims of Ponzi schemes, etc. we need to be compassionate and help those in need....
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:50 AM
 
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Pretty obvious to see who WOULD pass by on the other side of the road. "I was hungry and you gave me not to eat. I was thirsty and you gave me not to drink. I was naked and you clothed me not. I was in prison and you did not visit me. I was sick and you did not care for me. For whatsoever you did to the least of these you did to me. Depart from me. I never knew you."

"For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his soul?"

This country is in the process of losing its soul. We have become so greedy, so cold, so self absorbed that we really think that the only reason to do something is for profit....not because it is right.

"Father forgive them. They know not what they do."
Whether you accept it or not, this country is based on separation of Church and State. The Bible is not the Constitution. If you don't like that, maybe you should go live in a Catholic country like Mexico and preach that there.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:55 AM
 
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The other thing about that which makes it ridiculous, the USA cannot bring in the over 2 billion impoverished people of the world and give them a nice cushy middle class lifestyle.

How many of these people have abandoned their own children to get into the USA? Many have. It's doing no good at all for their own countries that millions are abandoning them, it would be far more compassionate in the long run if they stayed home and worked for reform, stayed to build up their own economies, paid taxes, created jobs -- in their own hometowns. Things do not improve at all for all those "left behind" and in many cases worsen.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:34 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Uhuh. Here's another bible verse for you to contemplate.



Meaning keep your hands off of things that are not yours.

Furthermore, when the Good Samaritan stopped to render aid to someone who was sick, was he then responsible for that person's care forever? Illegal aliens receive emergency medical treatment as mandated by law, which is the modern day counterpart of your Good Samaritan helping an ailing traveler. The Samaritan finds the injured man, tends to his wounds and takes him to an inn so he can recover. When the traveler recovers, I doubt that he expects the Good Samaritan to pay for any medical care he may need in the future. An illegal comes to an ER , he is evaluated and treated until his medical condition is stable and he can be discharged. The American healthcare system should no longer be responsible for his future care. There is a line between providing care in an actual emergency and being stuck with astronomical bills for things like dialysis and liver transplants for people who should not be in this country. The illegal aliens have shamelessly abused our charity and should be ashamed of themselves.
Which is what is happening now. Illegal Aliens break into the Country and with our current Social Service network we are responsible for them until they die. In the mean time every kid they kick out is attached to our wallets too. For the first 18 years it's a pretty expensive forced adoption.
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Old 09-19-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: At the Lake (in Texas)
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I mow my own yard, etc. so that claptrap from the pro illegal alien apologists is a joke.

Well good for you....you mow your own yard. How about the toilets where you work? How about the lettuce you eat -- do you pick it? How about the floors in your office, in your grocery store...etc. etc. etc.

We have so MUCH in this country, and yet it seems we are a bunch of selfish people who feel entitled to hate...entitled...that's the whole problem in a nutshell...go spend a few months in a third-world country and see just what you are really made of...

I"m done with this thread.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Well good for you....you mow your own yard. How about the toilets where you work? How about the lettuce you eat -- do you pick it? How about the floors in your office, in your grocery store...etc. etc. etc.

We have so MUCH in this country, and yet it seems we are a bunch of selfish people who feel entitled to hate...entitled...that's the whole problem in a nutshell...go spend a few months in a third-world country and see just what you are really made of...

I"m done with this thread.
Your pro illegal alien arguments are moot looking at our present high unemployment rate if nothing else.

I cannot comment on the lettuce; but, we clean our own toilets/floors at work, grocery stores cannot hire illegals (unless they have false SSN's---------which is a Felony), etc.

As for that 'third world nation' bit; judging by most of them, personal responsibility obviously is not a cultural hallmark.

If discussing just Mexico: its per capita income is over $14K a year----------which ain't poor.
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Old 09-19-2009, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Nova, D.C.,
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There is a lady and she has this poor little girl who is two and she is so fat she can barely walk! I mean very overweight and unhealthy for a little baby. I also see many overweight Spanish babies for some reason. I don't know if its their food or fast food, but I see it alot.
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Old 09-19-2009, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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There is a lady and she has this poor little girl who is two and she is so fat she can barely walk! I mean very overweight and unhealthy for a little baby. I also see many overweight Spanish babies for some reason. I don't know if its their food or fast food, but I see it alot.
Spanish babies?

Why I wonder is that ethnic Spaniards are almost always White since they are genetically much closer to English/Irish/French, etc. people than to most North American (Mestizo/Mulatto) Hispanics.
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