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Old 01-01-2010, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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The number of suspected illegal immigrants being reported to federal authorities by state welfare workers as required by a new state law has slowed to a trickle in recent days.

The sharp decline is a sign that the new law is working, proponents say, because it indicates fewer illegal immigrants are applying for public benefits out of fear they could be turned over to federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials. But immigrant advocates say they are alarmed that the new law is also making undocumented parents afraid to apply for benefits for their U.S.-born children, even though their children are eligible for federal food stamps, basic health-care services and other public benefits for the poor.
U.S.-born kids may be victims of aid law

I feel bad for the Anchor Babies due to their illegal alien parents' bad decisions. But, those children should not qualify for US citizenship to begin with.

And as several other posters pointed out: taking down the 'bird feeder' (benefits) is encouraging illegals to leave the USA
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Old 01-01-2010, 05:52 AM
 
Location: central Oregon
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U.S.-born kids may be victims of aid law

I feel bad for the Anchor Babies due to their illegal alien parents' bad decisions. But, those children should not qualify for US citizenship to begin with.

And as several other posters pointed out: taking down the 'bird feeder' (benefits) is encouraging illegals to leave the USA
Sounds good to me.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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US law defines a citizen as someone who is born here or has gone through the process of naturalization.

The so-called "anchor babies" didn't have a say in where they were born and, in fact, ARE US citizens, whether anyone likes that or not. The citizenship of their parents is a moot point and entirely irrelative.

To "deport" them would open a whole new field of law and adminstrative rules which could not help but allow the government to "deport" ANY citizen because all citizens are considered the same under the Constitution, federal law and state law.

Are you sure that's a can of worms you really want to open? Do you REALLY want the government to have the power to toss out those who were born here? You know, that might include you too.
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Old 01-01-2010, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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US law defines a citizen as someone who is born here or has gone through the process of naturalization.

The so-called "anchor babies" didn't have a say in where they were born and, in fact, ARE US citizens, whether anyone likes that or not. The citizenship of their parents is a moot point and entirely irrelative.

To "deport" them would open a whole new field of law and adminstrative rules which could not help but allow the government to "deport" ANY citizen because all citizens are considered the same under the Constitution, federal law and state law.

Are you sure that's a can of worms you really want to open? Do you REALLY want the government to have the power to toss out those who were born here? You know, that might include you too.
Since the US born children of foreign diplomats (including Mexican ones) explicitly do not qualify for birthright citizenship, precedent has already been set. A simple Supreme Court decision would cancel the Anchor Baby loophole quite nicely------------especially in this nasty recession.
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Old 01-01-2010, 07:27 AM
 
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US law defines a citizen as someone who is born here or has gone through the process of naturalization.

The so-called "anchor babies" didn't have a say in where they were born and, in fact, ARE US citizens, whether anyone likes that or not. The citizenship of their parents is a moot point and entirely irrelative.

To "deport" them would open a whole new field of law and adminstrative rules which could not help but allow the government to "deport" ANY citizen because all citizens are considered the same under the Constitution, federal law and state law.

Are you sure that's a can of worms you really want to open? Do you REALLY want the government to have the power to toss out those who were born here? You know, that might include you too.
I don't think any of us are advocating "tossing out citizens" but their parents are subject to deportation and since the claim is that Latinos are family oriented they should take their children with them back to their homeland. Mexico acknowledges dual citizenship so that shouldn't be a problem. When the U.S. born child becomes 18 they can decide which country they want to live in.

We do need to press legislation to re-interpret the birthright citizenship amendment to be more sensible like the rest of the world and as it was intended by those who wrote it. At least one parent should have to be a citizen in order for their newborn to gain instant citizenship. It should be retroactive but I think we all know it won't be so I would settle for future births from the time it is re-interpreted by the Supreme Court.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by stillkit View Post
US law defines a citizen as someone who is born here or has gone through the process of naturalization.

The so-called "anchor babies" didn't have a say in where they were born and, in fact, ARE US citizens, whether anyone likes that or not. The citizenship of their parents is a moot point and entirely irrelative.

To "deport" them would open a whole new field of law and adminstrative rules which could not help but allow the government to "deport" ANY citizen because all citizens are considered the same under the Constitution, federal law and state law.

Are you sure that's a can of worms you really want to open? Do you REALLY want the government to have the power to toss out those who were born here? You know, that might include you too.
All the more reason to modify the 14th. This ridiculous loophole is hurting the US tax payers more than any tax on the books to date.

Just think about it. Someone pregnant sprints across the border at San Ysidro, walks into the closest ER and POOF instant American. What a flipping joke, to the point of mockery.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:51 AM
 
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I don't feel bad for them at all. My American kids aren't growing up on food stamps or welfare handouts, and why should the children of illegal foreigners think they should?

Even wanting food stamps, Medicaid, welfare and other handouts proves they aren't coming here just to work, to do the hard labor cheap wage jobs Americans don't want to do, many are coming for the handouts.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by stillkit View Post
US law defines a citizen as someone who is born here or has gone through the process of naturalization.

The so-called "anchor babies" didn't have a say in where they were born and, in fact, ARE US citizens, whether anyone likes that or not. The citizenship of their parents is a moot point and entirely irrelative.

To "deport" them would open a whole new field of law and adminstrative rules which could not help but allow the government to "deport" ANY citizen because all citizens are considered the same under the Constitution, federal law and state law.

Are you sure that's a can of worms you really want to open? Do you REALLY want the government to have the power to toss out those who were born here? You know, that might include you too.
So? That still shouldn't entitle them to welfare handouts.

Welfare handouts should be based on legal citizen parents' income.
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Old 01-01-2010, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Since the US born children of foreign diplomats (including Mexican ones) explicitly do not qualify for birthright citizenship, precedent has already been set. A simple Supreme Court decision would cancel the Anchor Baby loophole quite nicely------------especially in this nasty recession.

Neither are babies born to US dipolmats in foreign countries. That's a different issue which is settled by jointly beneficial treaties and not a precedent for expelling US citizens from the nation of their birth.

As for a Supreme Court decision? Based upon what? What precedent could the Court cite to justify expelling a citizen innocent of any crime except birth? And, are you that supportive of so-called "judicial activism," because that's exactly what it would be?
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The US-born children are not “victims” of our laws; they are victims of their parents’ decision to live in this country illegally. While I certainly feel compassion for these innocent children, I feel nothing but contempt for their criminal parents. Furthermore, we don’t need “immigrants” who must rely on government assistance to provide for their families. Perhaps now they will stop having children they know they cannot support.
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