Is my impression of Indianapolis accurate? (Greenwood, Marion: fit in, transplants, real estate)

[indy_317]

Originally Posted by MortonR

I was wondering more about restaurants and bars, nightlife sort of related things.

I would think the hotels would support some of that business. And what about all the development that's taken place along the canal, and around IUPUI? Hasn't that elevated the activity in the area, too?

To me, downtown has always been the entire downtown area: The mile square, basically. Before the pandemic, things were fine. The issue with the mall was due to many factors, so it wasn't really a shock to see it not being a huge thing like it was in the past. Mass. Ave., and maybe even Fountain Square, likely stole some of the visitation from the Wholesale District and nearby areas. I went to Mass. Ave. one night to meet some friends. Things were busy, more busy than I would've thought it would be, even towards the north end, and this was before Bottleworks even opened.

The amount of residential that has opened up downtown is amazing. Numerous apartment and condo offerings. Plus the spread of revitalization to the near east side, Fountain Square, and now near the Garfield Park area. This also includes the growing revitalization on the near north side as well.

Many of the places near the downtown core really needed the M-F lunch crowd. Once those folks didn't really return to work, any business who relied on that crowd likely wasn't going to make it. When a lot of business came out and basically said the future is WFH/WFA, that really was a death blow to a lot of downtown job cores, not just Indy. It will be interesting to see what happens to parts of downtown if things ever get back to pre-pandemic times but remote work, or at least a hybrid of it, continues.

[Serious Conversation]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

3.5 per day is still less than 1% of the population of the city over the course of a year. Add to that the fact that the majority of those people are involved in illegal activities, the odds of just anyone being shot or stabbed is tiny.

Isn't weird how when there is a domestic dispute involving people of color in the city, the story is "oh crime is out of control the city so scary", but the story when there is a domestic dispute in the suburbs is "oh I can't believe this what a tragedy." You'd agree that is weird right?

I never felt extremely unsafe in the city, but these headlines aren't good numbers. They aren't appealing. Yes, it's mostly in certain neighborhoods, and often largely among people involved in illegal activities who already know each other, but it's bad press.

[Toxic Toast]

Originally Posted by Serious Conversation

I never felt extremely unsafe in the city, but these headlines aren't good numbers. They aren't appealing. Yes, it's mostly in certain neighborhoods, and often largely among people involved in illegal activities who already know each other, but it's bad press.

It also isn't unique to Indy.

[ColdAilment]

Originally Posted by Toxic Toast

3.5 per day is still less than 1% of the population of the city over the course of a year. Add to that the fact that the majority of those people are involved in illegal activities, the odds of just anyone being shot or stabbed is tiny.

Isn't weird how when there is a domestic dispute involving people of color in the city, the story is "oh crime is out of control the city so scary", but the story when there is a domestic dispute in the suburbs is "oh I can't believe this what a tragedy." You'd agree that is weird right?

That's because most white people are afraid of people that are not like them.

[sheerbliss]

Exactly. All my white neighbors and I run inside when we see a non-white person walking down the street.

I still have flashbacks about ordering fast food and dealing with contractors from when I lived in Denver.

[Ivory Lee Spurlock]

I do remember when it was common for many - if not most - white people would roll up their windows and lock their doors when they'd drive through a black neighborhood in a large city. I would imagine that many still do.

[Kluch]

My only "questionable" (if you want to call it that) experience being in downtown Indy where I've felt mildly uncomfortable was when we driving through downtown a few months back and I was debating on stopping for gas before getting on the highway to head back home. We were near 65 and there was a gas station right before you get on the on-ramp. I just about stopped before noticing how... shady it looked... not that the station itself was shady but there were a lot of men congregating outside and they didn't look friendly (for a lack of a better term). Honestly, had it just been myself I probably wouldn't have been deterred but with my wife and kids, for their sake I decided to keep driving (just didn't have a good feeling about the area... IDK). Granted, I don't go downtown often, but I assumed I was on the edge of a "not so good" area.

[Berteau]

Originally Posted by ColdAilment

That's because most white people are afraid of people that are not like them.

Most white people aren’t afraid of Asians, Indians, and Latinos. They’re likely just scared of groups that are statistically responsible for most violent crimes. And your statement is racist.

[Dyadic]

Originally Posted by Berteau

Most white people aren’t afraid of Asians, Indians, and Latinos. They’re likely just scared of groups that are statistically responsible for most violent crimes. And your statement is racist.

Statistically speaking guess what group commits the majority of rapes, suicide by firearm, death by drunk driving and aggravated assault? Let's play nice.

[valpofan11]

Originally Posted by Berteau

Most white people aren’t afraid of Asians, Indians, and Latinos. They’re likely just scared of groups that are statistically responsible for most violent crimes. And your statement is racist.

Indians are Asian lmao. Unless you're referring to Indigenous/Native people with the wrong term. But I get your point.