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Old 05-23-2012, 10:24 AM
 
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It sounds to me that the company was not getting fully qualified applicants. So, in order, to find someone to hire they have changed their strategy. Since the pay has been decreased they are probably willing to hire folks who are less than qualified that is the reason for the lower pay scale. The person who takes the job won't have the same skill level as the OP. So, for that person the pay may be in line with what they were expecting or what they could reasonably expect with their skill set and experience.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Knt1229: Good point - that would be a logical way for a company to do things.

Still, I went back and checked the job, and the requirements for the Contract version of it are about the same as the previous non-contract version. In both cases, you need at least a Master' degree, and to be "Highly knowledgeable in one or more of the following areas. Radiation transport, thermo-chemical ablation, aero-thermal heating, reacting flows, plume IR emissions, turbulence and diffusion." and a Ph.D. in the field is preferred.

Maybe there is a reason for this other than a company wanting the world while refusing to truly hire an employee, but it can still come across as a Ph.D. only netting you a contract job these days.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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Knt1229: Good point - that would be a logical way for a company to do things.

Still, I went back and checked the job, and the requirements for the Contract version of it are about the same as the previous non-contract version. In both cases, you need at least a Master' degree, and to be "Highly knowledgeable in one or more of the following areas. Radiation transport, thermo-chemical ablation, aero-thermal heating, reacting flows, plume IR emissions, turbulence and diffusion." and a Ph.D. in the field is preferred.

Maybe there is a reason for this other than a company wanting the world while refusing to truly hire an employee, but it can still come across as a Ph.D. only netting you a contract job these days.

Wow...the same requirements . It's hard to say what these employers are up to. If they prefer a PH.D but will take a Masters lowering the payscale certainly isn't going to accomplish much. Since it's a contract position then the advertised rate is probably the rate the temp/staffing agency has set. This means that the recruiter will be getting the rest. So, the company may not have lowered the pay but the temp/staffing has to get a piece of the pie which means the pay is less, unfortunately.

If you are still interested why not call one of the managers or HR people you spoke with before and see if they will consider re-interviewing you. Since some time has passed since the original interview maybe they will be willing to talk to you, again.
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Simply supply and demand, just like airfares, or 1,000 other products. And in the late 90s, the situation was reversed, and employers were having to increase their salary budgets on a regular basis. No one was harping on how unfair it was than, when the tables were turned.

Because it wasnt unfair then, it was just more fair to the employee. Corporate profits werent as high, and the employers simply werent stealing as much labor value off the backs of employees.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Because it wasnt unfair then, it was just more fair to the employee. Corporate profits werent as high, and the employers simply werent stealing as much labor value off the backs of employees.
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:54 PM
 
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knt1229: You're probably spot-on with how the pay would work out with the recruiter now getting a piece of the pie. In either case, I don't have the qualifications for that IR signature analysis job or I'd gladly apply, even at a reduced rate and as a contractor.

I figured that job was a decent example for this thread since it comes up in my search for local engineering positions and has such a narrow and specific description it is easy to recognize it immediately and know it's been floating around out there for at least 2 years, which makes me wonder just how critical the job really is... hmmmm...
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