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The solution to a lowball offer is to take it if you are unemployed and leave once you get a better offer or if you are currently employed why would you take it? As for salary history I have no problem with lying about it to thwart their attempt at price fixing.
If it's the field you really want to work in, take it. I'm in a somewhat similar situation - worked in a field I really liked and excelled at but left for what seemed like a better situation to fit my personal life. Now I really want to get back into my previous field but am getting no bites even for entry-level positions due the the amount of time I've been away.
Take the job, bust your hump for six months and show them how much better you are than the guys that they have paid 45+5 in the past and hit them up for a raise. If they decline, start looking elsewhere. You should find more doors open to you at that point since you are back in the game.
Like I said, if a job like this hasn't come along in 18 months, why pass it by? You're not taking a pay cut and always have the option of switching jobs with a much more favorable salary in a year or so.
The switching jobs option might not be good down the road because companies don't like more than three jobs in 5 years.
The switching jobs option might not be good down the road because companies don't like more than three jobs in 5 years.
I'm just going to keep harping on the fact that it took him a year and a half to find a job in his industry. Either they aren't hiring or the OP isn't living in the best location (in terms of employment).
Normally, job hopping might be a negative but the other choice is an hourly job presumably not in his industry.
Had a nice long interview again this morning about the position and my ideas. Talked about benefits, which do not seem the best ( through ADP/Total Source ) being a small company. I asked about the cost and got a little run around for being single the comapny puts in most of the money and if you choose not to have any, you get the money. I asked specifically about family costs for coverage and couldn't get a dollar figure but it sounded expensive from the tone of the conversation. You have 10 days for vacation/PTO and 9 holidays. I tried to ask for an additional week vacation but was told everything HR related like that goes ADP/Total Source and it probably couldn't happen. I tried to ask about getting a higher salary to start or possibly performance reviews to bump it up (Thank you all for the advice) . Was told they will see would they could do and get back to me on that. I was taken on a tour of the facility and what computer systems they use.
I don't know how to take this whole thing. I don't know where they came up with that salary range which isn't even at the low end of the market. Even if I do not take the position I would still be making more as an hourly employee than what was offered but not in my field or what I really want to do. Decisions, decisions...
Did I understand this right they won't give you are hard number of cost of benefits? If that's the case that is a red flag. It's one thing early in the process to get vague info but at offer time I want hard numbers or goodbye.
Now I am in sales and commissions can obviously vary so that's normal. Other than that I have always received hard numbers about 401k match, benefits costs, etc. When I didn't get receive that things always turned out bad. You have to ask yourself why won't they disclose? If it's a office manager answering these questions because they don't have HR ok that plausible.
Did I understand this right they won't give you are hard number of cost of benefits? If that's the case that is a red flag. It's one thing early in the process to get vague info but at offer time I want hard numbers or goodbye.
Now I am in sales and commissions can obviously vary so that's normal. Other than that I have always received hard numbers about 401k match, benefits costs, etc. When I didn't get receive that things always turned out bad. You have to ask yourself why won't they disclose? If it's a office manager answering these questions because they don't have HR ok that plausible.
It does sound like the company contracts an outside HR firm to manage the benefits (ADP) so it's possible that the manager (or whoever was doing the interview) doesn't have a firm handle on the details, especially for benefits that he or she doesn't personally use.
It does sound like the company contracts an outside HR firm to manage the benefits (ADP) so it's possible that the manager (or whoever was doing the interview) doesn't have a firm handle on the details, especially for benefits that he or she doesn't personally use.
Sure makes sense but they should have all that info ready for a potential candidate it's not hard to send an e-mail to ADP before they meet with a candidate.
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