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Old 08-14-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: 89434
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For example, I worked at a grocery store and a call center in college (not that long ago for me). I don't even include that in my resume because it isn't relevant to my current field, higher ed administration.
How were you able to get the job when you had no employment history for that time?

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Overstating/stretching or lying about skills and accomplishments, while it may not get caught or get you fired directly- it will likely lead to the company having high expectations of what you listed. If you get to the job and can't perform at the level that you stated, you will likely be fired or poorly evaluated eventually.
That's why I don't apply to jobs that I don't have the skills for. I only embellish on stuff I know how to do or skills that I have.
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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How were you able to get the job when you had no employment history for that time?
I got a paid internship while in college. I then went on to get my master's degree and taught as a graduate instructor. Once I finished my master's, I had two jobs to put on my resume, so I left off the grocery store.
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Old 08-15-2016, 07:45 PM
 
Location: North West Arkansas (zone 6b)
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I refuse to embellish my resume unless I can make my actual experience fit. I worked with a Russian dude who wasn't terribly smart and watched him apply for a position that was clearly over his head but another super smart Russian dude took the technical test for him. I remember thinking is people that lie which required honest people like me to take tests for a job.

Indian consultants have their best guy take the test. I hired one guy where his resume was a complete fabrication. He didn't know how to do the most rudimentary tasks.

Then there was a recruiter who asked me change my resume to match the job description.

To this day I still keep my resume true.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:47 PM
 
Location: 89434
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To this day I still keep my resume true.
You don't owe an employer honesty on your resume. When was the last time an employer was honest with a rejected applicant and offered them advice?
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Some of the comments are unbelievable. What ever happened to personal integrity? Lying about prior job history and academics speaks volumes about the character of an employee.

Degrees and college attendance can be validated online by anyone with a credit card. The ability to validate (school history - where, what dates and degrees) has been around since early 2000. So if you think you're gaming the system by falsifying information on your resume and job application, you're in for a big surprise. You can be fired on the spot for falsifying information on a job application (read the fine print!). Why risk your personal reputation with lying to potential employer?
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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No kidding programmer and developer interviews are notorious for being extremely difficult. Entire books and video series have been developed to pass technical interviews for software development. You're going to have to know data structures, algorithms, big O notation and you're probably going to have to go develop a program on the spot in the interview. Make sure you know how to use a whiteboard really well lol
why don't they just adopt some kind of general certification with a 10 hr exam that way it takes the onous off the employer to have to do all that. I know the federal govt uses the PE exam instead of going through all the effort of having time consuming onerous interviews.


I am not sure how close the EE PE exam with specialization in computer engineering would be ...
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Some of the comments are unbelievable. What ever happened to personal integrity? Lying about prior job history and academics speaks volumes about the character of an employee.

Degrees and college attendance can be validated online by anyone with a credit card. The ability to validate (school history - where, what dates and degrees) has been around since early 2000. So if you think you're gaming the system by falsifying information on your resume and job application, you're in for a big surprise. You can be fired on the spot for falsifying information on a job application (read the fine print!). Why risk your personal reputation with lying to potential employer?
Usually I would imagine you are lying because your reputation is already shot and you simply need to pay bills.
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:24 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Personal integretity won't get you far at many companies today. They lie, cheat, bully, and let the law and money be their only conscience. So play by their rules.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Personal integretity won't get you far at many companies today. They lie, cheat, bully, and let the law and money be their only conscience. So play by their rules.
Most people don't have a choice if they want to get ahead.

How do you think companies get ahead? They bend every rule in the book, lie, take advantage of people, buy politicians etc.....

If you want to swim in that pool and not drown, you have to play their game.

Wells Fargo CEO just resigned with close to 150 million, try telling him being honest, ethical and playing by the rules is the right thing to do.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:06 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Some of the comments are unbelievable. What ever happened to personal integrity? Lying about prior job history and academics speaks volumes about the character of an employee.
Personal integrity and honesty might not get you anywhere in today's market. Sure you can save yourself from having the reputation of a liar but would you rather end up living on the streets?

You can't fake degrees but you can make up fake businesses and use them that relates with your skills and experience.
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