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Just curious, have you ever done any original research in your life or do you always just follow the herd? You would think I would be easy enough to prove wrong.
Wrong, I got my best job ever in August of 2000. During the Clinton years things were booming and it was easy to get a job.
I just noticed you live in conservative AZ. So do I. How hard have you tried to find something (sounds like you have) and how long have you tried? I don't want to get more discouraged than I am so maybe I'll pick up another volunteer job instead for references.
A lot of "best jobs" were only temporary things made up by large loans in hopes the company would grow to take out more money. Or the large amount of tax revenue from the snow birds taking advantage of the housing and crashing our market.
Conservative AZ? Spending millions on trains and companies taking advantage of their employees left and right is not conservative in my mind. I will be laid off in a month, more or less. But when i was first fired in Tucson, it took me a month before i gave up and looked in another city. I had to get rid of everything before i gave up.
The only thing that is sad about AZ is how temporary the state really is. The companies and jobs are temporary. The residence are temporary, ect.
In closing, I will force my wife to move out of this state if I cannot get student loans to finish my degree. The new budget isn't looking to pretty for teachers or student.
Not arrogant at all, but you did not start things off on the right foot with me at all. And I knew somehow you have a high school diploma. It always shows when people attack those with higher education.
I made $70K in my last job before I switched careers (to do something for others), so obviously someone thought I had the ability to make money.
Ya know, it's not his responsibility to start things off on the right foot with you. At all. He is not your subordinate just because you feel superior to him by dint of your advanced degree and the presumption that you are intrinsically more intelligent because you chose the MBA route in life. Just because things did not turn out the way you had always assumed they would (meaning that you would be able to pat yourself on the back for elevating yourself to the lofty heights of holding an MBA) doesn't mean that somehow everyone else--especially the lowly high school graduate--needs to be in the same boat. There really are people without MDs, JDs, MBAs who are thriving and doing just fine. Why, some of them are even making a whole lot more than $70,000 a year. Imagine! I realize in your insular little world that makes things not fair. But nothing stays the same forever. You can continue to blame the former president for your plight, or you can get over yourself and realize that even the lowly high school graduate can offer something with which you cannot compete. Your remarks are offensive and actually bear out that while someone is jealous, it is not who you think it is.
And I do hold a degree post high school graduation, but that is neither here nor there. I just figured I should cut off that avenue of attack for you.
Ya know, it's not his responsibility to start things off on the right foot with you. At all. He is not your subordinate just because you feel superior to him by dint of your advanced degree and the presumption that you are intrinsically more intelligent because you chose the MBA route in life.
It's what ticked me off starting this little peeing match.
"I've got two advanced degrees from Oxford, one is a doctorate in medieval literature and the other a doctorate in Egyptology specializing in 18th dynasty hieroglyphics."
Not knocking Egyptology, I so wanted to be an Egyptologist when I was a kid, but you are going to be limited in your career choices a bit.
I remember I fell for one of those "We are specialists in business and will review your organization telling you what's wrong so you can make more profit" schemes 10 years ago.
I got snookered, at first it was an interview that was nearly free but soon grew into this $160 an hour plus expenses thing that I put up with for a day and a half before giving the guy the boot.
First hour he told me how great he was working for Arthur Anderson (this was a year before Enron) before changing jobs.
On the second he comes out with this stupid looking circular slide rule affair for a demonstration how by cutting costs I increased profits. It was not only embarrassing it was insulting. I was paying a nitwit to show me this? I think he thought I was going to ohhh and haaaa by showing me pearls of wisdom but I just laughed.
But the guy got me for around $2500 for two days so he got me good there.
A co-worker of mine asked me for a reference to temp agencies for certified nurse assistant jobs. I would happily recommend her for any such jobs, especially geriatrics, as she is wonderful.
She told me the agency never got back to her on her application. I pointed out that maybe the temp agencies don't have any work to fill, because if they did, she'd be aces for a call. I did suggest she call them to check in, but likely they are shriveling up, too.
My hospital rarely used agencies, but did for a while. It's been years since they've had the need.
I gave up on temp agencies a long time ago. I got tired of spending two hours testing, and then for them to tell me that my skills aren't good enough, and I was only qualified to be a file clerk! After being an Admin Asst for 40 years, that's really insulting. So, accidentally, I got into private security, another time when I was unemployed. I still do it part-time, though. They're low paying jobs, but you have the opportunity of making OT, and the companies are flexible. You can work a second shift - either 3-11 or 4-12, and have your days free for serious job hunting. And if you like staying up all night, you can work graveyards.
I was hired by two different school districts to work as a substitute secretary, after the school district that I was with for 3 1/2 years terminated me. Substitute clerical jobs with school districts are also flexible, and I work event security part-time.
I gave up on temp agencies a long time ago. I got tired of spending two hours testing, and then for them to tell me that my skills aren't good enough, and I was only qualified to be a file clerk! After being an Admin Asst for 40 years, that's really insulting. So, accidentally, I got into private security, another time when I was unemployed. I still do it part-time, though. They're low paying jobs, but you have the opportunity of making OT, and the companies are flexible. You can work a second shift - either 3-11 or 4-12, and have your days free for serious job hunting. And if you like staying up all night, you can work graveyards.
I was hired by two different school districts to work as a substitute secretary, after the school district that I was with for 3 1/2 years terminated me. Substitute clerical jobs with school districts are also flexible, and I work event security part-time.
I do understand why they have to give that 2 hour test even though it's annoying as hell because they want to make sure they are sending the right people to the right assignments. So maybe you fell off a little where you needed to be a little stronger.
I do understand why they have to give that 2 hour test even though it's annoying as hell because they want to make sure they are sending the right people to the right assignments. So maybe you fell off a little where you needed to be a little stronger.
I didn't "fall off" anywhere. If I can pass the tests for the school districts and make much more than a temp service would pay me, where could I "fall off?"
The temp agencies prefer to hire younger people, so they can stick them in call centers which is where they make their money these days. They don't want people with experience, because they would do more work to find them a job. The only decent temp services are the local ones. They don't have the large staff turnover like the chains do.
Found on Page 61 in "Design and Layout of Fire Sprinkler Systems" published 2000 which is a Google online book. It's a good read for the beginner but it will give someone who might be interested a little insight as to whtat the job is and I am very surprised to find it online.
In August 2000 there were 744 NICET IV certificate holders and 1,188 NICET III certificate holders. Level III is the minimum level considered by most to be competent.
13.2.1 Each building of the entire facility shall be protected in accordance with UFC 3-600-01, NFPA 13 and International Building Code. Sufficient hydraulic calculation sets which will fully define the entire system sizing shall be provided. The Contractor shall solicit, independent of the project, a fire protection design firm to provide a layout of the entire fire protection system including hydraulic calculations. The drawings and calculations shall be done by a NICET Level IV certified fire protection specialist or a Registered Fire Protection Engineer.
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Certification: The plans and calculations submitted for this project shall be signed by an individual who is a registered professional engineer and a Full Member of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers or who is certified as a Level IV Technician by National Institute for Certification in Engineering Technologies (NICET) in the Automatic Sprinkler System Layout subfield of Fire Protection Engineering Technology in accordance with NICET 1014-7.
You'll find similar wording on all federal specification contract jobs and most state as well. You'll also find it as a requirement to inspect systems... think of all the systems owned by the government across the country. There's lots of them and when you actually get the numbers its mind boggling. Some military bases have thousands of them.
As I said every NICET IV I know is working, in over 30 years I have yet to hear of one being laid off though I did hear of a NICET III laid off once but he had a job in a day or two. The pool of qualified people is just that small.
Is it rocket science? Do you need to be a genius? The answer to both these questions is no. I consider myself somewhat smarter than average but I'm not gifted and while I have tried to pass the Mensa test online I've always failed. I am not Mensa material.
But, as the handbook points out, what it takes is diligent preparation and persistence, persistence and persistence. If anyone wants to do this they can, it's easy enough but there's few ways in anymore. The easiest would be to go to one of handful of two year technical schools that offer courses, go to one of the three universities that offer fire protection engineering or find work as a trainee under a certificate holder but that rarely happens anymore.
I am familiar with one technical college, I would love to teach there when I retire, and every student they were graduating in May had a job offer before they graduated with the lowest pay in the high 20's to start. I'm not talking about May 2008 either, this was just last month. The average was low 30's which isn't bad to start right now.
No temp agencies in the country are hiring at all . and frankly it is disgusting what the companys who are hiring are paying in the way of salaries .
It must have taken you a LONG time to call every single staffing agency in the country to be able to make those statements. Is that how you got the name "phonelady"?
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