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Old 05-23-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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Contact tracing is not a one-way street and is nothing new; epidemiologists have used this tool for a century or more in attempting to find the source of communicable disease as well as slow down its spread. "Patient One" in the HIV virus and the infamous "Typhoid Mary" were identified with the assistance of contact tracing. The current focus of the CDC in using contact tracing as a method to curb the spread of the current coronavirus does not indicate it is not a viable tool in identifying sources as well as targets and the two week look back period being used does just that.

These article provide a brief explanation:

https://edmdigest.com/response/conta...urce-diseases/

https://edmdigest.com/news/infectious-disease-covid-19/
I guess that is your way of saying you now know that Covid-19 contact tracers interview the known and tested Covid-19 infected subject to find out who has had contact with the subject while the subject was infectious. Those folks, when identified, are called and testing is recommended. And if positive, quarantine.

That is very clearly spelled out in the CDC current guidelines on Covid-19 contact tracing: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t-tracing.html

(Typhoid Mary, early AIDS, etc. may (or may not) be different matters and may have included a vigorous effort to get to the source who may (or may not) spread the disease over an extended period of time and might have continued to do so. )

 
Old 05-23-2020, 09:44 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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You have been complaining since day 1. Are you a business owner?
HA ha Ha hahaha....read his posting history, he's been on unemployment most of the last ten years. He just wants to make everyone else gets back to work to support him.
 
Old 05-23-2020, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Many delis and restaurants are paying cash off the books to fill the spots. Because you’re right 100% no one is coming back to make $500 a week when they can make $1000 staying home.

So those workers are making out great right now.
I am told the same thing is happening in Canada as far as making out in unemployment instead.
 
Old 05-24-2020, 12:40 AM
 
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I guess that is your way of saying you now know that Covid-19 contact tracers interview the known and tested Covid-19 infected subject to find out who has had contact with the subject while the subject was infectious. Those folks, when identified, are called and testing is recommended. And if positive, quarantine.

That is very clearly spelled out in the CDC current guidelines on Covid-19 contact tracing: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t-tracing.html

(Typhoid Mary, early AIDS, etc. may (or may not) be different matters and may have included a vigorous effort to get to the source who may (or may not) spread the disease over an extended period of time and might have continued to do so. )
No, that is my way to include even the grossly obvious for those who need such information to fully understand a concept. I shall remember to don my Captain Obvious garb the next time I am addressing you. The solution to the confusion exhibited in your last paragraph above is found in the two links I have previously supplied.
 
Old 05-24-2020, 04:23 AM
 
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No, that is my way to include even the grossly obvious for those who need such information to fully understand a concept. I shall remember to don my Captain Obvious garb the next time I am addressing you. The solution to the confusion exhibited in your last paragraph above is found in the two links I have previously supplied.
As an alternative you could know what you are talking about before spouting off regarding Covid-19 contact tracing.

And leave any dress-up games you’d like to play behind closed doors.

You can add to your knowledge by, again, reading current CDC guidelines on Covid-19 contact tracing: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...t-tracing.html

Last edited by Quick Commenter; 05-24-2020 at 05:01 AM..
 
Old 05-24-2020, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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He overplayed his hand, and people are turning on him now. Especially for the nursing home deaths.

Curious what's gonna happen here, we started phase 2 re opening yesterday but bars are still closed. They're not happy. There aren't THAT many pure bars here, though, not like NY. And at the last minute Cooper allowed breweries (which there are a ton of) and wineries to open.
Yep, his widely mocked vanity CNN interviews with his brother didn’t help either. He also needs to quit with the endless daily press conferences, like trump thankfully finally did.
 
Old 05-24-2020, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Nassau County
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Even Fauci is calling for opening up now.

Protect the sick and elderly
Practice social distancing
Wear masks to help prevent spread
This.
 
Old 05-24-2020, 06:08 AM
 
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He overplayed his hand, and people are turning on him now. Especially for the nursing home deaths.

Curious what's gonna happen here, we started phase 2 re opening yesterday but bars are still closed. They're not happy. There aren't THAT many pure bars here, though, not like NY. And at the last minute Cooper allowed breweries (which there are a ton of) and wineries to open.
He's hopscotching excuses (first it was overcrowded hospitals, then it was bad nursing home operators, then it was pointing out that other states had nursing home deaths, and now [of course] it is "Trump's CDC") hoping the public will buy one or more of the excuse smorgasbord. He even desperately whipped out the old "Republican's are playing politics" attempted diversion. Nobody (left, right, or center) is buying his childish excuses on this one.

Unfortunately the pesky little facts are that one simply cannot permit Covid-positive patients to enter nursing homes. Ever. The fact he reversed himself and the state's new standing order explicitly forbids continuing that catastrophic action is as close he has got to admitting he was wrong.

NY's nursing home debacle, rather than the whole series of televised press conferences, may very well be his legacy for the crisis.

And he knows it.
 
Old 05-24-2020, 06:12 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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He's hopscotching excuses (first it was overcrowded hospitals, then it was bad nursing home operators, then it was pointing out that other states had nursing home deaths, and now [of course] it is "Trump's CDC") hoping the public will buy one or more of the excuse smorgasbord. He even desperately whipped out the old "Republican's are playing politics" attempted diversion. Nobody (left, right, or center) is buying his childish excuses on this one.
Add to this the new "children's Covid."
 
Old 05-24-2020, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Former LI'er Now Rehoboth Beach, DE
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There is no easy answer because the issue of your personal freedom vs mine is at the heart of this debate. You choose not to wear a mask because of your beliefs in terms of freedom as it applies to you area at stake. The next person looks at it that your choice is potentially putting him at risk. Which is closer to the truth? The jury is still out. Answers will come eventually.

Sort of like the debate years ago when they banned smoking. Person 1 wants to smoke, person 2 wants it banned. Person 1's personal freedoms were violated in his view by person 2 and vice versa. Yes, I understand there is a quite a difference at this point in the two, a known carcinogen vs. an unknown enemy, but the point is when things like this happen someone will always feel like their rights have been violated.
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