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Old 02-24-2021, 05:07 AM
 
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This coronavirus will be here for another hundred years. Same with the Spanish flu.
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Old 02-24-2021, 05:14 AM
 
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This coronavirus will be here for another hundred years. Same with the Spanish flu.
As long as we can keep it at levels like a cold or flu who cares ....the vaccines have been proving to be about 100% effective against hospitalized cases and death ..J&J has even demonstrated that against the South African variant.

Lots of things are here forever but are reduced to being transparent to our lives because the effects have become minimal
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Old 02-24-2021, 06:03 AM
 
Location: western NY
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What difference does it make. At some point, it’ll be as easy to get as a flu shot.
For those that want it, just gotta be patient.
I understand that "being patient" helps, but the inefficiencies and "political games" that are going on, can't help but make you feel that it is, as has already been mentioned, a "defecation show".

At first, our Emmy Award winning Governor decided that after the front line health care workers were to be vaccinated first, which is FULLY understandable. Then the general population over 75 years of age was to be vaccinated. Since they are the most frail, and the most likely to become infected, this made sense.

However, a number of people were upset, thinking this wasn't "fair". So they the age factor was dropped to 65+ years of age.....even though the people 75 and older hadn't yet been taken care of. For my wife and I, this meant we were now eligible, so I went online.....January 18th, and tried ALL of the possible options. After wading through all of the "red tape", I was able to schedule 2 appointments, one for her and one for me....on March 28th, 9 weeks out, at one of the state sites. So much for the "efficient system" that we were promised. And furthermore, I have to drive 20 miles, to the opposite side of the county, twice, in possibly bad weather, if we get a late snow storm. There was only one state operated site in my county. None of the drug stores closer to me, have available appointments. I've been checking daily, for the last 6 weeks.

But wait, there's even a new wrinkle....some members of the community are claiming that they're being unfairly treated, since they are unable to sign up "online" or don't have transportation to the vaccination sites. So now the state is setting up "local sites", but restricting them to the residents of specific zip codes....
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Old 02-24-2021, 07:02 AM
 
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I understand that "being patient" helps, but the inefficiencies and "political games" that are going on, can't help but make you feel that it is, as has already been mentioned, a "defecation show".

At first, our Emmy Award winning Governor decided that after the front line health care workers were to be vaccinated first, which is FULLY understandable. Then the general population over 75 years of age was to be vaccinated. Since they are the most frail, and the most likely to become infected, this made sense.

However, a number of people were upset, thinking this wasn't "fair". So they the age factor was dropped to 65+ years of age.....even though the people 75 and older hadn't yet been taken care of. For my wife and I, this meant we were now eligible, so I went online.....January 18th, and tried ALL of the possible options. After wading through all of the "red tape", I was able to schedule 2 appointments, one for her and one for me....on March 28th, 9 weeks out, at one of the state sites. So much for the "efficient system" that we were promised. And furthermore, I have to drive 20 miles, to the opposite side of the county, twice, in possibly bad weather, if we get a late snow storm. There was only one state operated site in my county. None of the drug stores closer to me, have available appointments. I've been checking daily, for the last 6 weeks.

But wait, there's even a new wrinkle....some members of the community are claiming that they're being unfairly treated, since they are unable to sign up "online" or don't have transportation to the vaccination sites. So now the state is setting up "local sites", but restricting them to the residents of specific zip codes....
Big red herring. Complete non-issue if there were enough vaccines. People are acting like slim supply and heavy rationing are NOT supply chain factors. Breaking out into "essential" groups and "residency requirements" are examples of rationing. We're rationing our modest supply. That is why we have a "defecation" show and only 12% are vaccinated so far. I signed up Jones Beach day one, hour one and got March 22nd. If we had the vaccines, we'd be running sites 24/7 for everyone. We don't yet.
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Old 02-24-2021, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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It's definitely a Moderator cut: crude language removed show, but much more supply is coming. The next 2 mos should see a dramatic increase in supply, and actual people being vaccinated.

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Old 02-24-2021, 09:08 AM
 
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And furthermore, I have to drive 20 miles, to the opposite side of the county, twice, in possibly bad weather, if we get a late snow storm. There was only one state operated site in my county. None of the drug stores closer to me, have available appointments. I've been checking daily, for the last 6 weeks.

But wait, there's even a new wrinkle....some members of the community are claiming that they're being unfairly treated, since they are unable to sign up "online" or don't have transportation to the vaccination sites. So now the state is setting up "local sites", but restricting them to the residents of specific zip codes....
I understand your complaint, but also believe part of the problem down here on LI is logistics. If you're referring to the Jones Beach site, it's a massive operation. I cannot think of many locations here to accommodate all those large tents, required parking after the shots, and ten concurrent lines of cars. I agree the popup sites seem unfair, but they are not doing thousands of shots a day like Jones Beach.
I didn't mind driving 30 miles each way to Jones Beach two times, in fact it's a beautiful drive. The operation was impressive and efficient, and the people working there in the cold were helpful and kind.
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Old 02-24-2021, 09:54 AM
 
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I understand your complaint, but also believe part of the problem down here on LI is logistics. If you're referring to the Jones Beach site, it's a massive operation. I cannot think of many locations here to accommodate all those large tents, required parking after the shots, and ten concurrent lines of cars. I agree the popup sites seem unfair, but they are not doing thousands of shots a day like Jones Beach.
I didn't mind driving 30 miles each way to Jones Beach two times, in fact it's a beautiful drive. The operation was impressive and efficient, and the people working there in the cold were helpful and kind.
Really, we have an unused arena that can accommodate 1000's per day. An ampitheater with endless parking. The beach itself has 10+ parking areas, we're using one. Tents cost diddly via FEMA. There is plenty of space. What is lacking are vaccines and staff. I don't mind driving to Jones Beach either. I mind waiting 2 months from registration to maybe getting a shot.
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Old 02-24-2021, 03:09 PM
 
Location: western NY
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Big red herring. Complete non-issue if there were enough vaccines.....If we had the vaccines, we'd be running sites 24/7 for everyone. We don't yet.
If that, indeed, is the true issue, then the state shouldn't be opening up the requirements, without covering the first group, entirely, before creating false hope for people.


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I understand your complaint, but also believe part of the problem down here on LI is logistics. If you're referring to the Jones Beach site, it's a massive operation. I cannot think of many locations here to accommodate all those large tents, required parking after the shots, and ten concurrent lines of cars. I agree the popup sites seem unfair, but they are not doing thousands of shots a day like Jones Beach.
I didn't mind driving 30 miles each way to Jones Beach two times, in fact it's a beautiful drive. The operation was impressive and efficient, and the people working there in the cold were helpful and kind.
Actually, I was referring to the situation in the Rochester area.


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Really, we have an unused arena that can accommodate 1000's per day. An amphitheater with endless parking. The beach itself has 10+ parking areas, we're using one. Tents cost diddly via FEMA. There is plenty of space. What is lacking are vaccines and staff. I don't mind driving to Jones Beach either. I mind waiting 2 months from registration to maybe getting a shot.
It appears that we're on the same page. As I said, however, I'm in the Rochester area. But just for the sake of illustration, the site that the state chose is on the far southwestern quadrant of the county.
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Old 02-25-2021, 10:06 AM
 
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The politicians are a joke. They spend more time trying to pander.
Just put it out there and let whoever can get it, get it.
I totally agree that anyone high risk should have preference, but when they start going oh we gotta get this group or that group done first because it’s not fair, I mean c’mon really.
It’s pandering and slows down the roll out with bureaucratic baloney.
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Old 02-25-2021, 10:47 AM
 
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The politicians are a joke. They spend more time trying to pander.
Just put it out there and let whoever can get it, get it.
I totally agree that anyone high risk should have preference, but when they start going oh we gotta get this group or that group done first because it’s not fair, I mean c’mon really.
It’s pandering and slows down the roll out with bureaucratic baloney.

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