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Old 02-28-2021, 06:47 PM
 
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Who needs gas with electric cars, and electric for home with solar? I don't see the issue. LMFAO
Say it so!! We love our beautiful clean coal!
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Old 03-03-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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I read a good article on vaccine efficacy today and thought it good to pass this on.
95 percent efficacy does not mean that there is a five percent chance you will contact COVID
Efficacy is the percentage of improvement against a placebo group.

For example, take two groups of 10,000 people. One group did not receive the vaccine, the second group was vaccinated.
In the first (non-vaccinated) group, 126 people got COVID
In the second (vaccinated) group, 36 people got COVID

The efficacy of the vaccine would then be around 71.5 percent (1.0-(36/126))
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Old 03-03-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from catching it though.
You catch it, spread it, kill some bastards while all you get are the sniffles.
It’s like a bad Lifetime movie. Actually there are no “good” Lifetime movies, so it’s like a Lifetime movie.
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Old 03-06-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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Does stop and shop on long island give the vaccine? If so, does anyone know which locations?
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Old 03-06-2021, 03:49 PM
 
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The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from catching it though.
You catch it, spread it, kill some bastards while all you get are the sniffles.
It’s like a bad Lifetime movie. Actually there are no “good” Lifetime movies, so it’s like a Lifetime movie.
More and more new data is showing that after vaccination the levels of viral load you actually expel is a fraction of what it was .

It may cause nothing worse then a cold to others .

So it seems it works both to you and from you
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Old 03-06-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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I read a good article on vaccine efficacy today and thought it good to pass this on.
95 percent efficacy does not mean that there is a five percent chance you will contact COVID
Efficacy is the percentage of improvement against a placebo group.

For example, take two groups of 10,000 people. One group did not receive the vaccine, the second group was vaccinated.
In the first (non-vaccinated) group, 126 people got COVID
In the second (vaccinated) group, 36 people got COVID

The efficacy of the vaccine would then be around 71.5 percent (1.0-(36/126))
We also don’t care about getting mild symptoms..it is all about how much it reduces hospitalization and death , as well as how much less is the viral load you expel to others reduced if you did get it .

Also the age bend points matter ...Johnson and Johnson had zero hospitalized and zero deaths but at what ages is crucial ?
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Old 03-06-2021, 05:28 PM
 
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We also don’t care about getting mild symptoms..it is all about how much it reduces hospitalization and death , as well as how much less is the viral load you expel to others reduced if you did get it .

Also the age bend points matter ...Johnson and Johnson had zero hospitalized and zero deaths but at what ages is crucial ?
I heard today that the J&J vaccine is the most effective with the South African variant . The beat goes on...
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Old 03-07-2021, 04:44 AM
 
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I heard today that the J&J vaccine is the most effective with the South African variant . The beat goes on...
The jury is still out though as far as how effective it is at preventing serious cases or death in seniors ...it seems to have a fall off as the age curve increases and there really was not enough testing on seniors . So no one really knows about how J&J is where it is needed the most

In fact seniors are hard to come by in South Africa as they said life expectancy for the average person is pretty low ...

We got the Pfizer but had no choice any way ...
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Old 03-07-2021, 06:26 AM
 
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People need to stop reading the "news". Depends on the source, and the day. Its always changing. Just live life, and don't feed the social media/news hyperbole.
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Old 03-07-2021, 07:39 AM
 
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People need to stop reading the "news". Depends on the source, and the day. Its always changing. Just live life, and don't feed the social media/news hyperbole.
And read the actual studies, the primary sources, and get an education to learn to understand them.
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