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Old 07-31-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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Blandford, MA - entire police force resigns. All 4 of them!

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/07/...esigns-safety/
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Old 07-31-2018, 04:05 PM
 
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Blandford, MA - entire police force resigns. All 4 of them!

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/07/...esigns-safety/
Sounds like a town budget issue rather than an anti-cop stance from the public. A town of roughly one thousand should probably be annexed into a larger neighbor/regional area - only so many tax dollars to spread around.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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Maybe these horrible things will happen less if people know they're going to be called out on them and there will be repercussions for their being horrible people. You can't change horrible people from being horrible people, but perhaps you can reduce them making other people's lives worse.

No horrible people will be horrible people whether they are on camera or not. Unintentional mistakes will be made whether there is an audience or not. Police will keep doing their jobs regardless of whether some dirtbag punk is looking for his 5 minutes of fame.



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Maybe some cops will think twice before pulling a trigger if they realize they might be recorded. That is a benefit to both body and dash cams, and social media. Less shooting of people.

Right because cops just go around shooting people for fun, like in the wild west. Have you ever been in a situation where you had to decide between pulling the trigger or not? Do you have any idea that's every cop's worst nightmare, or any human being's for that manner? Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?


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That Minneapolis recent one. He was running away. Not aiming a gun. They shot a man running away. No immediate threat to anyone. It's amazing they won't be charged. It's a killing.

Really???

https://abcnews.go.com/US/minneapoli...ry?id=56907450





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I thought it is ok for people to have guns, 2nd amendment and all, or is that only for certain people? Heck, people using weapons took over a government facility and had and armed standoff and that's perfectly ok and didn't warrant cops using force... heck, it received praise from right wingers.... cause... hmmn, I wonder what the difference is...

Why weren't cops warranted for using force then? My guess is they were, and determined the risk to bystanders was too great. I HOPE they were right, but it's not my job to second guess.





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Completely untrue. Cops and their unions fought them at every single turn. They've only recently started coming around to them to see the protection they can provide for cops. That is VERY recent. When they first were proposed, they were almost uniformly imposed. This includes the Boston Police who sued to stop the program.


You are just flat out incorrect.


https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justic...n-body-cameras


Boston police union files injunction to stop body camera pilot program | Boston Herald


https://dailyfreepress.com/blog/2016...amera-program/


Police Union Pushes Back on Body Cameras in El Paso, Texas


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...le1981217.html


https://www.denverpost.com/2015/11/0...amera-program/


https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...locking-reform

Like I said "initially". This is all very new stuff. Do you even read what others post? Is your sole purpose to be confrontational? This thread was supposed to be a simple thank you to a group that doesn't get thanked anywhere near enough. There are other threads already going if you want to carry on with your police bashing, or better yet take your gripes to Politics and Other Controversies. With all your time on C-D, I'm sure you can find your way over there.
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Old 07-31-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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I could take one MBTA ride and video tape 20 min worth of disgusting horrible things coming from people.. If it does not fit the white vs. black, Straight vs. gay, Man vs. women, everyone hates trump narrative nobody cares. there is no hungry mob. Theres a market for this stuff.

Reminds me of a recent video that was blowing up the (anti)-social media, where a black woman (playing the victim) was recording white CVS employee calling the cops on her after refusing to honor a coupon. Later we find (for those who care to), that she came in the store with counterfeit coupons and followed the guy around the store threatening him for close to an hour before he finally called the cops!
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:36 PM
 
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Reminds me of a recent video that was blowing up the (anti)-social media, where a black woman (playing the victim) was recording white CVS employee calling the cops on her after refusing to honor a coupon. Later we find (for those who care to), that she came in the store with counterfeit coupons and followed the guy around the store threatening him for close to an hour before he finally called the cops!
That was quite recent and was all other the news. This is the first time i hear what really happened...
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Old 07-31-2018, 07:46 PM
 
Location: East Coast
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Reminds me of a recent video that was blowing up the (anti)-social media, where a black woman (playing the victim) was recording white CVS employee calling the cops on her after refusing to honor a coupon. Later we find (for those who care to), that she came in the store with counterfeit coupons and followed the guy around the store threatening him for close to an hour before he finally called the cops!
She absolutely did not. The coupon was found to be legitimate. I actually know the woman that it happened to. She is a professional. She is not a criminal, did not follow the guy around and did not threaten him. In fact, it was shown that this guy had forged signatures on a ballot initiative. So, he is clearly dishonest. Whatever nut job right wing sources gave you that info got it totally wrong.

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Old 07-31-2018, 08:27 PM
 
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No horrible people will be horrible people whether they are on camera or not. Unintentional mistakes will be made whether there is an audience or not. Police will keep doing their jobs regardless of whether some dirtbag punk is looking for his 5 minutes of fame.






Right because cops just go around shooting people for fun, like in the wild west. Have you ever been in a situation where you had to decide between pulling the trigger or not? Do you have any idea that's every cop's worst nightmare, or any human being's for that manner? Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?





Really???

https://abcnews.go.com/US/minneapoli...ry?id=56907450








Why weren't cops warranted for using force then? My guess is they were, and determined the risk to bystanders was too great. I HOPE they were right, but it's not my job to second guess.








Like I said "initially". This is all very new stuff. Do you even read what others post? Is your sole purpose to be confrontational? This thread was supposed to be a simple thank you to a group that doesn't get thanked anywhere near enough. There are other threads already going if you want to carry on with your police bashing, or better yet take your gripes to Politics and Other Controversies. With all your time on C-D, I'm sure you can find your way over there.

Great post! Amen.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:55 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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No horrible people will be horrible people whether they are on camera or not. Unintentional mistakes will be made whether there is an audience or not. Police will keep doing their jobs regardless of whether some dirtbag punk is looking for his 5 minutes of fame. .


Nice assumption that the cop is right and the victim is a "dirtbag punk"


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Right because cops just go around shooting people for fun, like in the wild west. Have you ever been in a situation where you had to decide between pulling the trigger or not? Do you have any idea that's every cop's worst nightmare, or any human being's for that manner? Do you have any idea what you are talking about at all?.


No, because I have no desire to shoot people nor do I have a power trip. And yes, I do know what I'm talking about and that is why I'm trying to correct you're incorrect statements. Pretty much ever single thing you post is flat out wrong. It's not every cops worst nightmare, as we see time and time again many love it.


Really???

https://abcnews.go.com/US/minneapoli...ry?id=56907450[/quote]




That cop should be in jail if not fired. He is running away, posing no threat to anyone and they gunned him down. Disgusting.


"Put your hands up!" Schmidt says.
"I haven't done nothing, bro," Blevins says.
"You've got a gun, motherf-----!" the officer responds.
If that was a white person, the assumption would have been that the white person having the gun was perfectly ok and it would never have happened. They certainly would never have been shot for running away.

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Why weren't cops warranted for using force then? My guess is they were, and determined the risk to bystanders was too great. I HOPE they were right, but it's not my job to second guess.
No, they determined that they were white right wingers. There were no bystander issues.


If those were people of color with guns, they would have been shot. We know it. White people with guns = second amendment rights. Black people with guns = a perceived threat.

It is my job to second guess since they work for me/us.

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Like I said "initially". This is all very new stuff. Do you even read what others post? Is your sole purpose to be confrontational? This thread was supposed to be a simple thank you to a group that doesn't get thanked anywhere near enough. There are other threads already going if you want to carry on with your police bashing, or better yet take your gripes to Politics and Other Controversies. With all your time on C-D, I'm sure you can find your way over there.
My purpose is to put the correct information out there. They get thanked plenty. If you think getting the truth out there is "bashing", that is your issue. And it wasn't and isn't just "initially". There is still opposition.
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Old 08-01-2018, 09:56 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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That was quite recent and was all other the news. This is the first time i hear what really happened...

That isn't what happened. He's promoting more lies.
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Old 08-01-2018, 10:00 AM
 
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If that was a white person, the assumption would have been that the white person having the gun was perfectly ok and it would never have happened. They certainly would never have been shot for running away.


My purpose is to put the correct information out there. They get thanked plenty. If you think getting the truth out there is "bashing", that is your issue. And it wasn't and isn't just "initially". There is still opposition.
I would call that speculative and subjective.. not "correct"
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