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Old 08-19-2009, 03:32 PM
 
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Again, americans and their vast knowledge of Mexico, without even having put a single foot here. Where did you get this info?
Actually I saw how Mexico treats its black population first hand in Guerrero and Oaxaca
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Old 08-19-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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Actually I saw how Mexico treats its black population first hand in Guerrero and Oaxaca
Please explain it.
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:43 AM
 
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Please explain it.
The black population is concentrated in poor, isolated villages that don't have power and electricity, and Mexican cops mess with Afro-Mexicans like you wouldn't believe ; they are often assumed to be illegal aliens and there have been federales who've forced Afro-Mexicans to sing the Himno Nacional just to prove they're not illegals crossing through Mexico from Central America or the Caribbean en route to the US. Afro-Mexicans are treated like they have no rights in Guerrero and make up a disproportionate amount of Acapulco's beggar and prostitute population.

And I'm not even going to get into how the Mexican government depicts Father Morelos, one of the greatest heroes of Mexican history who got the common population behind the cause of independence from Spain (Hidalgo was speaking more to the criollo elite), as a white man, and Mexican schoolchildren were long taught that he wore his scarf because he was bald (in reality it was to cover up his African hair) and that both of his parents were white. If you see portraits of Morelos from his time, you can see he was mixed race with significant African ancestry. He's not depicted that way on Mexican currency, however, nor in all the official pictures of him found throughout Mexico.
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Old 08-20-2009, 03:25 AM
 
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Kat Von D was born to Mexican parents René Drachenberg and Sylvia Galeano in Nuevo Leon, Mexico in 1982. At age four, she and her family emigrated to the United States, settling in Colton, California. Von D is of German and Mexican-Italian descent.
http://behindtheink.com/famousink/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/kadvond3.jpg (broken link)
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Old 08-20-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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The black population is concentrated in poor, isolated villages that don't have power and electricity, and Mexican cops mess with Afro-Mexicans like you wouldn't believe ; they are often assumed to be illegal aliens and there have been federales who've forced Afro-Mexicans to sing the Himno Nacional just to prove they're not illegals crossing through Mexico from Central America or the Caribbean en route to the US. Afro-Mexicans are treated like they have no rights in Guerrero and make up a disproportionate amount of Acapulco's beggar and prostitute population.

And I'm not even going to get into how the Mexican government depicts Father Morelos, one of the greatest heroes of Mexican history who got the common population behind the cause of independence from Spain (Hidalgo was speaking more to the criollo elite), as a white man, and Mexican schoolchildren were long taught that he wore his scarf because he was bald (in reality it was to cover up his African hair) and that both of his parents were white. If you see portraits of Morelos from his time, you can see he was mixed race with significant African ancestry. He's not depicted that way on Mexican currency, however, nor in all the official pictures of him found throughout Mexico.
No one has ever told me that.
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:36 AM
 
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No one has ever told me that.
Maybe because is a lie or exaggeration...
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Old 08-20-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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Maybe because is a lie or exaggeration...
I don't know everything that goes on. It wouldn't surprise me if any of that stuff mentioned is going in Mexico, especially with the police doing stupid stuff.
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Old 08-20-2009, 05:05 PM
 
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I don't know everything that goes on. It wouldn't surprise me if any of that stuff mentioned is going in Mexico, especially with the police doing stupid stuff.
I did see it for myself in Mexico besides having read and heard Mexicans discussing the situation of Mexico's black population. As I was not online yet when I was in Mexico and didn't save every article or book I read nor did I document every conversation I had. However:

"They tend to suffer rejection and discrimination for their skin color. A UNAM study about communities of African descent demonstrates that 73.9% have no right to medical services."

Los invisibles, la comunidad de afromexicanos - El Universal - Los Estados

For more: Afro-Mexican - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:57 PM
 
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Somebody just 'repped' me on this thread and asked me a question...but I don't know who you are. If you want to 'PM' me, I'll be glad to answer.

Anyway, thanks for the rep...
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Hermosillo,Sonora
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Macmeal you are full of suprises! I had no idea Linda Ronstadt was part Mexican. Those are all good, it is pretty neat how religion has brought so many Irish and Mexicans together.
Linda Ronstadt mother was born in Sonora, and john Gavin's mom too was born in Sonora.
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