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Old 09-08-2009, 09:31 AM
 
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Juarez and Zapata were proud of their indigenous descent and generally someone having indigenous ancestry in Mexico isn't something to be ashamed of (not to mention that Juarez is one of Mexico's greatest heroes, comparable in historical stature and high regard to his contemporary Abraham Lincoln in the USA)The majority of the population has some indigenous ancestry, like I have to tell anyone that - and, in favor of Mexico, Mexico has never held to the one drop insanity that long possessed the US. The indigenous heritage is a key part of Mexico's heritage and acknowledged as such. OTOH the African heritage seems to be completely denied except when it's too obvious, and then it's derided....
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Yes, the majority of the population have some indigenous ancestry, but a minority doesn't have indigenous ancestry and yes, they believe in the "one drop rule".

I have family in Mexico, they went there during the 30's. They are rich, they live in "colonias" and they hang in their "Centros". They travel frequently to Spain and even their kids in their third generation look Spanish.

We have a lot of Mexican tourists in Spain visiting their ancestral towns, entire regions of Galicia, Asturias and Catalonia are used to their visits. They own many have properties there. They look Spanish all the way, northern Spanish.

They are called gachupines, gueros, etc.

A famous Mexican woman in Spain. Her last name is Catalan.

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Old 09-08-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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Carlos Irwin Estevez aka Charlie Sheen

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Old 09-09-2009, 03:45 AM
 
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Estevez is a commie gallego, not Mexican.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:01 AM
 
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I read the article, and another one related, have you read it well? It says that afromexicans are poor and lack opportunities, to be honest I've met few afromexicans in my life but those who've I met have never complained of being discriminated.

Also Mexico never had schools or places in the buses, etc for white people and schools for other races, mexico never had signs in the stores that said, black people, asians, etc not allowed.

Mexico abolished slavery first than the US, this was one of the decisive factors of the war of independence.

Mexico doesn't have judicial system that gives you a different treatment because of your skin color.

In Mexico (and Brazil) you can say black without it being an offense, because we don't have the trauma that still lives up to this day in the USA.

In Mexico everybody is Mexican, not Afromexican, or Indian Mexican, etc.

Now about what Ayana said about police making their family sing the national anthem, it has happened to me too, because I'm white and supposedly I don't look Mexican, this has happened to me in the airport of Mexico city, and in the Juarez International airport, they've asked me for my passport, etc. But this has more to do with the police being corrupt and trying to make a quick profit of you, than discrimination.
Are you often taken for a tourist in Mexico because you dont "look Mexican"? I read one of your other posts where you wrote Mexican Americans asked why you spoke Spanish to them, not realizing you were Mexican. I am part Mexican decent, and when I tell Mexican americans this they act surprised. The funny thing is my Mexican grandfather was northern Italian and blond, he was much lighter than me!
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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Charlie sheen is 25% spanish decent, not mexican.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:58 AM
 
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you are right and it's funny that Americans just someone to have a Latin name to label as Mexican ...

there are many people that their parents have their origin in Mexico but they fully take as Americans come to mind Freddie Prinze Jr. or Tony Romo, you cant say they are mexicans, they are 100% americans.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:02 PM
 
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:46 PM
 
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you are right and it's funny that Americans just someone to have a Latin name to label as Mexican ...

there are many people that their parents have their origin in Mexico but they fully take as Americans come to mind Freddie Prinze Jr. or Tony Romo, you cant say they are mexicans, they are 100% americans.
Freddie Prinze Jr. doesn't have any Mexican ancestry at all.

Freddie Prinze Sr. was half Puerto Rican and half Hungarian Ashkenazic Jewish. He played a Mexican on TV but his stand up comedy act definitely focused on his Nuyorican identity. Latino actors often get cast in roles from other Latino backgrounds, e.g. John Leguizamo, who's Colombian-American but who has played Puerto Rican and Mexican characters as well as non-Latino white characters, or Salma Hayek, who played a Dominican political activist in a TV movie even though she's Mexican.
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Old 09-10-2009, 02:48 PM
 
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When I was a baby I fell on the beach in Tijuana and cut my cheek, where became lodged a pebble, forever entombed in my cheek. Does this mean I'm part Mexican? ;-)
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Old 09-10-2009, 03:02 PM
 
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Freddie Prinze Jr. doesn't have any Mexican ancestry at all.

Freddie Prinze Sr. was half Puerto Rican and half Hungarian Ashkenazic Jewish. He played a Mexican on TV but his stand up comedy act definitely focused on his Nuyorican identity. Latino actors often get cast in roles from other Latino backgrounds, e.g. John Leguizamo, who's Colombian-American but who has played Puerto Rican and Mexican characters as well as non-Latino white characters, or Salma Hayek, who played a Dominican political activist in a TV movie even though she's Mexican.
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