10-14-2009, 07:00 AM
Location: Miami
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Lets get back on topic, its about Rude people in MIAMI.
10-14-2009, 07:01 AM
Location: Lots of sun and palm trees with occasional hurricane :)
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My goodness!
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You deliberately changed my meaning. Of course visiting and living in a place are two different things. If one speaks English, it is rude to speak Spanish (or whatever one's native language is) in the USA in front of people who don't understand that lanaguage. Cultured people understand this concept. I knew plenty of people in So. FL who understood this and acted accordingly in the presence of the Anglo's they encountered.
It is pleasant if you are visiting another country and can at least say please and thank you in their language. Of course, if you go to another country already angry and rude, they will be rude back.
Why Thank You. I really do appreciate your expert analysis and insightfulness. No biggie really. It's just one of my many attributes. It goes with the territory.
When you have a chance, and just for the record, could you explain how l skewed (or deliberately changed) what you wrote?
No one but Latinos speak Spanish in Florida. My ONLY problem with Latinos is that they continue to speak Spanish when they are AMERICAN citizens and have been given a wonderful opportunity here in the U.S.A. and don't appreciate it.
I don't see where that statement said anything about business trips, or a few words, or that "please and thank you" was sufficient.
10-14-2009, 10:47 AM
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No one but Latinos speak Spanish in Florida. My ONLY problem with Latinos is that they continue to speak Spanish when they are AMERICAN citizens and have been given a wonderful opportunity here in the U.S.A. and don't appreciate it.
False. I am of Scottish-Irish descent, and I speak fluent Spanish all the time. You lump together an entire ethnic group without exception and you expect to be taken seriously? Did every single one of your ancestors come from the British Isles? If not, do you think any ancestors you might have had from Germany, Scandinavia, Italy, or other non-English speaking countries just immediately dropped the language once they arrived?
As far as rudeness, a rude person is a rude person, regardless of the language they speak. You can find them in South Florida in any area, of any race/color, and speaking any language.
10-14-2009, 05:33 PM
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Rudeness in Miami ??? yes !!
I just came back from a visit to Miami and I was stunned at several things. Its been a few years since I visited but the driving just annoyed the crap out of me - the cut in front - the riding on your tail and these are just some of the rudeness in driving I encountered. Poverty seemed to riddle many places I saw !! I could not find a 'decent looking' grocery store...I love Publix and even the one I went to did not look anything like the Publix stores I am used to. I did meet a very nice deli clerk in Publix though - so that was a pleasant surprise ! Though another staff did not speak a word in English and I figured it out because I asked him a question and he just shook his head NO - which was a weird answer to the question - so I asked him in Spanish if he spoke English - at which he said NO - that was funny - not mad about that - a man gotta eat ! I am going to say this - I am BLACK and my kids were with me and they constantly got surprised stares or compliments - I am assuming because of their demeanor. Its like we were majorly different. I am busy and cannot even find time to properly type my thoughts but it was an experience. So I am looking for a area in Miami or even right outside Miami that has nice parks for kids, a great YMCA, clean neighborhood, with stores like Whole Foods or Traders Joes nearby and GREAT SCHOOLS !! I heard for charter schools are the way to go - but I need great private and public options - if that's possible. I have lived in East Cobb, Atlanta and if anyone knows it - I am looking for something near to decent as that place. So YES - there is rudeness in Miami but its also everywhere....but that place needs a facelift like last year !
10-14-2009, 05:45 PM
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I just came back from a visit to Miami and I was stunned at several things. Its been a few years since I visited but the driving just annoyed the crap out of me - the cut in front - the riding on your tail and these are just some of the rudeness in driving I encountered. Poverty seemed to riddle many places I saw !! I could not find a 'decent looking' grocery store...I love Publix and even the one I went to did not look anything like the Publix stores I am used to. I did meet a very nice deli clerk in Publix though - so that was a pleasant surprise ! Though another staff did not speak a word in English and I figured it out because I asked him a question and he just shook his head NO - which was a weird answer to the question - so I asked him in Spanish if he spoke English - at which he said NO - that was funny - not mad about that - a man gotta eat ! I am going to say this - I am BLACK and my kids were with me and they constantly got surprised stares or compliments - I am assuming because of their demeanor. Its like we were majorly different. I am busy and cannot even find time to properly type my thoughts but it was an experience. So I am looking for a area in Miami or even right outside Miami that has nice parks for kids, a great YMCA, clean neighborhood, with stores like Whole Foods or Traders Joes nearby and GREAT SCHOOLS !! I heard for charter schools are the way to go - but I need great private and public options - if that's possible. I have lived in East Cobb, Atlanta and if anyone knows it - I am looking for something near to decent as that place. So YES - there is rudeness in Miami but its also everywhere....but that place needs a facelift like last year !
Question for you: What areas of Miami did you visit? That may go a long way in determining your views of the city...
Also, you might want to repost this as a separate thread...since this is a tangent, we'll probably get bumped
10-14-2009, 07:48 PM
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Pinecrest, Aventura, South Miami and the Gables is the closest you are going to get to East Cobb (which I love btw)
10-14-2009, 07:55 PM
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@ CJS08 - I was in Miramar area - travelled mainly between County Line Rd and South of that point.
10-14-2009, 08:07 PM
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I was majorly disappointed. So I am looking for a area in Miami or even right outside Miami that has nice parks for kids, a great YMCA, clean neighborhood, with stores like Whole Foods or Traders Joes nearby and GREAT SCHOOLS !! I heard for charter schools are the way to go - but I need great private and public options - if that's possible
I don't understand, you didn't like the area, but you still want to move here? What makes you think black people are so unusual in Miami? Most hispanics come from countries with high black populations. We have plenty of black people down here too, Miami Dade county is almost 20% black. We also have thousands of well behaved black children. Hispanics do tend to pay a lot attention to other people's kids independent of race. What you experience was a culture shock and it didn't happen because your family is black.
You haven't moved here and already want the city to have a "facelift?" Sounds like you will be very miserable if you move down here, this place is very different from Atlanta. No place is like Atlanta just like no place is like Miami. If you want tropical climate, I suggest you open your own post in the Florida forum. My opinion? Sadly for black people the best places are still South Florida or Jacksonville. You think Miami is bad? Try the Florida West Coast, that's like moving to a small town in Alabama.
And out of all places you go to Walmart and you expect to meet decent people? That place is the seventh circle of hell.
10-14-2009, 09:09 PM
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So I am looking for a area in Miami or even right outside Miami that has nice parks for kids, a great YMCA, clean neighborhood, with stores like Whole Foods or Traders Joes nearby and GREAT SCHOOLS !! I heard for charter schools are the way to go - but I need great private and public options - if that's possible. I have lived in East Cobb, Atlanta and if anyone knows it - I am looking for something near to decent as that place.
These areas are more comparable to Gwinett than anything, but you would probably like Weston, Cooper City, Pembroke Pines and west Miramar. Pembroke Pines and especially Miramar have a fairly large black middle class. The latter two are somewhat far from a Whole Foods, but when I went a Whole Foods store in Plantation, they were doing a customer mapping survey. According to them, they are considering another store somewhere in Pembroke Pines or Miramar. They were originally supposed to build one in Pines but pulled out of the lease.
10-14-2009, 09:12 PM
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@ CJS08 - I was in Miramar area - travelled mainly between County Line Rd and South of that point.
South of County Line Rd? Sounds like you were actually in Miami Gardens. If you were really in Miramar (and if you were, you were in east Miramar), ditto the crappy Publix, since Publix has existed for much longer in Florida and stores in that area date back to the 70s. I think Jamacian Patois is much more common than Spanish in that area, though, and English is definitely number one in NE Dade/East Miramar, so it doesn't sound like you were anywhere near that area. Again, if you were really around there, there is a nicer Publix a little bit west by River Run and another one by Pembroke Rd and Hiatus. There is also a very nice one on University in Pembroke Pines, and out by Monarch Lakes. Also a Whole Foods in Aventura.
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People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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