Seriously?? How do we fix south beach?? (Miami, Miami Beach: condominiums, big home)

[perry335654]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

I can afford it as I live a dual lifestyle in a more expensive city than Rio - Geneva, Switzerland. I just don't have time, my summers are there, and everything else here. I vacation in Rio though, property there is very cheap (unless you're on the water), certainly compared to Geneva.

It's cute you're trying so hard to become personal. I rent? No, I own a town-house and a condo that I rent to others. Shows how insecure you are

The favellas they have in Rio makes Overtown projects look like mansions , there are a plethora of them sitting on a mountain or hillside.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by perry335654

The favellas they have in Rio makes Overtown projects look like mansions , there are a plethora of them sitting on a mountain or hillside.

I happen to like the views from the favelas. Vidigal has extraordinary views over Leblon, if Rio was in the USA those neighborhoods would gentrify and houses there would be worth a lot of money, like the Hills in LA. Except it's in Brazil, which is why I have no inclination to invest, and especially live there. It has a long way to go.

Overtown is gentrifying too, but it's not hard to see why it's a bad neighborhood. It doesn't sit on any magnificent real estate like Vidigal does.

[perry335654]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

I happen to like the views from the favelas. Vidigal has extraordinary views over Leblon, if Rio was in the USA those neighborhoods would gentrify and houses there would be worth a lot of money, like the Hills in LA. Except it's in Brazil, which is why I have no inclination to invest, and especially live there. It has a long way to go.

Overtown is gentrifying too, but it's not hard to see why it's a bad neighborhood. It doesn't sit on any magnificent real estate like Vidigal does.

Sorry for the spelling of favela, don't know Portuguese very well. Yea Rio is a beautiful city which I believe will be hosting the 2016 Summer Olympics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xzVGGJcJb4
These favelas are in Rocinha

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by perry335654

Sorry for the spelling of favela, don't know Portuguese very well. Yea Rio is a beautiful city which I believe will be hosting the 2016 Summer Olympics.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xzVGGJcJb4
These favelas are in Rocinha

You can see some of the views I'm talking from here :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo8ZSsfb3Mk

[Git Her Done]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

I can afford it as I live a dual lifestyle in a more expensive city than Rio - Geneva, Switzerland. I just don't have time, my summers are there, and everything else here. I vacation in Rio though, property there is very cheap (unless you're on the water), certainly compared to Geneva. It's cute you're trying so hard to become personal. I rent? No, I own a town-house and a condo that I rent to others. Shows how insecure you are

You live in Switzerland and South Beach? Hard to believe this ... It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say anything. I suppose you're also a Formula One Driver part-time? I'm typing this from Leblon right now on Dias Ferreira street (Mods can check this easily). Insecurity? Just got back from a great and satisfying evening at one of Rio's famous Boates

Back to topic - If SoBe is so awesome then why doesn't Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Joe Namath, Jack Nicklaus or Burt Reynolds live there?

[Git Her Done]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

It doesn't sit on any magnificent real estate like Vidigal does.

Vidigal is an ugly but safe favela. Only gullible and incompetent tourists get suckered in to favela tours. You have Favelas all over Rio state over-looking the ocean and Vidigal is just one of them.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by Git Her Done

You live in Switzerland and South Beach? Hard to believe this ... It's easy to sit behind a keyboard and say anything. I suppose you're also a Formula One Driver part-time? I'm typing this from Leblon right now on Dias Ferreira street (Mods can check this easily). Insecurity? Just got back from a great and satisfying evening at one of Rio's famous Boates

I don't care if you're typing this from Rio, or any other city tbh. I don't care about you, and unlike you not desperate to prove anything over the internet. You can take or not take that I have an apartment in Geneva.

Back to topic - If SoBe is so awesome then why doesn't Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Joe Namath, Jack Nicklaus or Burt Reynolds live there?

Lol, with logic like this ....

Vidigal is an ugly but safe favela. Only gullible and incompetent tourists get suckered in to favela tours. You have Favelas all over Rio state over-looking the ocean and Vidigal is just one of them.

Vidigal is beautiful, name me a favela with more beautiful views than Vidigal since you claim to live in Rio.

[Git Her Done]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

Lol, with logic like this ....

Vidigal is beautiful, name me a favela with more beautiful views than Vidigal since you claim to live in Rio.

Interesting how you dodged the question about Jupiter Island vs SoBe. I guess you don't have the financial where-with-all to live among the real players. Sobe is AAA ball compared to the NFL of Palm Beach/Jupiter Island. Vidigal just has nice views-nothing else. It's still a dirty, smelly favela occupied by mostly poor Migrants from the Northeast-many illegally tap in to electricity never paying the bill, and they pay no property taxes-many live for free only paying cable/dish TV/internet. Also criminals and drugs harvest and are harbored in almost all Rio's favelas. However, yes, Vidigal may be the best favela in terms of non-violence and safety. All favelas in South Zone have great views, not just Vidigal.

[miami_winter_breeze]

Originally Posted by Git Her Done

Interesting how you dodged the question about Jupiter Island vs SoBe. I guess you don't have the financial where-with-all to live among the real players.

Why are you trying to make it out about how much I make? Why do you care? I just said I loved Miami Beach, and South Beach specifically. My wife's family lives in Jupiter, I'm well acquainted with Jupiter Island and Palm Beach, and I don't like them at all. Some people do though, which is their right. As soon as I said I find my Miami Beach my 'heaven' you began foaming at the mouth and becoming personal: asking me my ethnic background and implying you are richer than me. Like I care, but strangely you do.

When it comes to high end real estate, South Beach has more than Jupiter Island or Palm Beach, however unlike Jupiter Island it has many cheaper rental units, and affordable properties. It's truly a place where the rich mingle with the poor.

Take a look : Miami Beach FL Real Estate - 190 Homes For Sale | Zillow

And count the properties over 1 million. There is a 5 bedroom going for 20 million not too far from me. And there are condos going for somewhat affordable rates of about half a million. You can use whatever imagination you have about where I live exactly since you seem to care.

[Git Her Done]

Originally Posted by miami_winter_breeze

Why are you trying to make it out about how much I make? Why do you care? I just said I loved Miami Beach, and South Beach specifically. My wife's family lives in Jupiter, I'm well acquainted with Jupiter Island and Palm Beach, and I don't like them at all. Some people do though, which is their right. As soon as I said I find my Miami Beach my 'heaven' you began foaming at the mouth and becoming personal: asking me my ethnic background and implying you are richer than me. Like I care, but strangely you do. When it comes to high end real estate, South Beach has more than Jupiter Island or Palm Beach, however unlike Jupiter Island it has many cheaper rental units, and affordable properties. It's truly a place where the rich mingle with the poor. And count the properties over 1 million. There is a 5 bedroom going for 20 million not too far from me. And there are condos going for somewhat affordable rates of about half a million. You can use whatever imagination you have about where I live exactly since you seem to care.

Simple Answer - Miami's real estate is almost 100% deceptive. The Miami market is foreign driven. You wait until the foreigners jump ship or the next Andrew rolls in to town. Like I said, I consider most of Dade County and the Beaches AAA Ball land-I live in the NFL-It is that simple... But if you are happy my friend then do what you want. Have a good one!