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Old 12-09-2010, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Ridgway/Saint Marys, PS
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I hate those canned feeds. You can station-hop as you drive down the road and get the same songs and even the same ads at the same time from one station to the next, along with the same announcer. Nothing particularly good or interesting about it, but pap sure is cheap.

I think the day is coming when even that canned announcer is automated -- there is already automated software to write newspaper-type articles. Put that with a text-to-speech program and you could totally automate the entire thing from top to bottom, no radio announcer needed even to create the original feed.

I'm glad someone is preserving what we once had at every radio station across the country, as little as remains of it.
Reziac,

I drove from Southern Illinois to Connecticut and back over Christmas 2009. On the way home, it took several states, but I finally heard the #1 song on AT40 with Ryan Seacrest.

Get my point?

I'm trying to preserve a little bit here and there.... can't do it all, but will grab what catches my fancy!
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Now you've got me wondering.... college radio manages to do it with volunteers. I'm thinking local commercial stations might do the same, to get away from the canned feed thing. Yeah, they've got to make some money to stay on the air, because that studio and transmitter eat a certain amount every month. But I'm thinking you'd get more local ad dollars if you had more local people directly involved, and it's for sure our local businesses need the help too. Maybe let 'em do a little "shameless self-promotion" at a reduced ad rate in return for the volunteer work, be that a Q&A show or whatever your audience wants. ANYTHING but the damned canned feed, which I'm not going to listen to anyway.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Ridgway/Saint Marys, PS
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Now you've got me wondering.... college radio manages to do it with volunteers. I'm thinking local commercial stations might do the same, to get away from the canned feed thing. Yeah, they've got to make some money to stay on the air, because that studio and transmitter eat a certain amount every month. But I'm thinking you'd get more local ad dollars if you had more local people directly involved, and it's for sure our local businesses need the help too. Maybe let 'em do a little "shameless self-promotion" at a reduced ad rate in return for the volunteer work, be that a Q&A show or whatever your audience wants. ANYTHING but the damned canned feed, which I'm not going to listen to anyway.
If that was legal, it'd already be done.. Im sure there are some wage/labor issues involved.

Plus, alotta people would see it was the station getting way more out of it then the volunteer/business owner was.
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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I drove from Southern Illinois to Connecticut and back over Christmas 2009. On the way home, it took several states, but I finally heard the #1 song on AT40 with Ryan Seacrest.

Get my point?
I have no idea who Ryan Seacrest is (I haven't listened to commercial radio in years, what we get here is all suckage now) but yeah, I've done the same thing with Casey Kasem back-when, lose one signal and find another identical one as you drive cross-country, it was all the same canned feed anyway, with the only difference being the timezone offset, and occasionally a local ad spot.

Or not so local... from California to Texas, you could hear ads for "Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!"
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Ridgway/Saint Marys, PS
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I have no idea who Ryan Seacrest is (I haven't listened to commercial radio in years, what we get here is all suckage now) but yeah, I've done the same thing with Casey Kasem back-when, lose one signal and find another identical one as you drive cross-country, it was all the same canned feed anyway, with the only difference being the timezone offset, and occasionally a local ad spot.

Or not so local... from California to Texas, you could hear ads for "Cal Worthington and his dog Spot!"
Ryan is today's Casey. .. and he aint that good.

Anyways, to bring this back on topic.. uhhh.. lol
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Old 12-09-2010, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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If that was legal, it'd already be done.. Im sure there are some wage/labor issues involved.
Which goes to point up another problem... we've become so tangled up in regulations that often we can't do the right thing even if we want to. Tho since there's no license requirement to just be a DJ anymore (it was dropped the year after I got mine), that's not an issue.

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Plus, alotta people would see it was the station getting way more out of it then the volunteer/business owner was.
Well, the station exists to make money too, so what's the problem?
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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Ryan is today's Casey. .. and he aint that good.

Anyways, to bring this back on topic.. uhhh.. lol
There's a topic?

Casey understood pacing, how to make it comfortable to just continue listening even if it wasn't all that interesting. That's missing in most of the other canned shows I've heard... they seem to grok irritation better.
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Old 12-09-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Ridgway/Saint Marys, PS
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Which goes to point up another problem... we've become so tangled up in regulations that often we can't do the right thing even if we want to. Tho since there's no license requirement to just be a DJ anymore (it was dropped the year after I got mine), that's not an issue.



Well, the station exists to make money too, so what's the problem?
To make it worth while, the station would have to give the business owner ads at such a cheap rate for being a DJ, the station wouldnt even break even........ ad rates in radio are already low enough as it is
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Brendansport, Sagitta IV
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To make it worth while, the station would have to give the business owner ads at such a cheap rate for being a DJ, the station wouldnt even break even........ ad rates in radio are already low enough as it is
I think if it were understood that the alternative is the local station going to one of those dreadful canned feeds, or going belly-up entirely... there might be a good deal more give and take between the small local station and the small local business (which is also in danger of going kaput just about everywhere).

Last edited by Reziac; 12-09-2010 at 06:03 PM.. Reason: annoying additions to the "family filter"
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Ridgway/Saint Marys, PS
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I think if it were understood that the alternative is the local station going to one of those dreadful canned feeds, or going belly-up entirely... there might be a good deal more give and take between the small local station and the small local business (which is also in danger of going kaput just about everywhere).
You make a valid point.. kinda what happened to KATQ AM 1070 and FM 100.1 (5KW and 3KW respectively) in Plentywood, Montana... they were going to go dark and the town didn't want it sold to someone out of town.. the community bought shares of the corporation that own the station and now the residents in town own the station
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