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Old 04-12-2021, 01:19 PM
 
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One of our local politicians.
Bet you were left hungry after that!
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Those numbers are low here. The real deaths are well over a million, trust me there were billions spent to keep the real numbers supressed and deflated. Questions as in what determines a patient having a heart attack as a direct result? Did they smoke? Did they have diabetes? Was there pre-existing condition? Did they excercise too much? Anything that could have been done to muddy the waters was done. That 60k number is what attorneys could gather as 100% direct result with zero muddied waters. We didnt even settle on any lawsuits except a couple thousand of them.

Id be willimg to bet more people in NJ died from Vioxx than Covid.
The estimate is from an FDA official who was critical of the way the FDA handled things.

What you are describing is arguments a defense lawyer would use.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:21 PM
 
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The estimate is from an FDA official who was critical of the way the FDA handled things.

What you are describing is arguments a defense lawyer would use.
Just ignore him, he's a moron.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Southern, NJ
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We had the Pfizer shots & are fully vaccinated. Husband had no effects at all from either vaccine. I had a slight fever, chills, headache & aches all over for less than 24 hrs. & I was tired. A friend of ours got J&J last week & had a very bad reaction the next day. Pounding headache, aches all over, fever, nausea chills. this lasted 24 hrs.

I hope you have a positive test.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:00 PM
 
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Just ignore him, he's a moron.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:30 PM
 
Location: NYC
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https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/...j-vaccine.html

Fully vaccinated NJ man in serious condition with covid.
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Old 04-12-2021, 05:33 PM
 
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Life is unpredictable. Get the vaccine.
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Old 04-13-2021, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2021/...j-vaccine.html

Fully vaccinated NJ man in serious condition with covid.
So? The vaccine is not 100% effective.

How many fully vaccinated people are not in serious condition with COVID-19?
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Old 04-13-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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Well my partner was vaccinated with J&J vaccine yesterday and of course they just put an emergency stop use on them today due to multiple heart attacks and death. Shes very worried now.

Moral of the story, we are guinea pigs for these vaccines. If you are low risk the long term effects of the vaccine could be greater and dont be a sheep just because youre being told everyone else is doing it.
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Old 04-13-2021, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Elizabeth, NJ
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Correct Danny. I had my first Moderna vaccine dose yesterday (which already provides 80% protection) and suffering bad side effects today. Chills, bad headache, body aches, etc.. They say 2nd dose is worse, I will be skipping that one. They have very little info on these vaccines as the news regarding J&J proves.
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