03-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Location: Tucson
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It's not necessary. Mardi Gras wasn't you. You aren't the first person I've come across that didn't care for Mardi Gras. You have to like to party, you have to like crowds, you have to be open to gay people, you have to be a serious seeker of fun through interaction with others, you have to like complete interaction with others, etc. I'm glad you came. And I'm glad you gave it a shot. And I'm glad you realized it isn't for you. When it isn't for you, you can be quite miserable with the experience. Don't read me wrong. My own parents live in New Orleans and don't care for Mardi Gras. They left town and went to the MS Gulf coast for the day. I have quite a few friends that leave town and go skiing in Colorado. And remember, only 50% of those that live in the New Orleans Metro area even partake in one parade. Half of the city doesn't even participate. My sister went shopping for the day. It wasn't for you. It's not that big of a deal. I'm impressed you gave it a shot. Some love it, some don't. You don't. No biggie. Seriously. Maybe one day you can try New Orleans again when it isn't Mardi Gras and you'll see how it is here during "normal times." I don't know where you went or who you met. I do know that New Orleans is completely different than Phoenix and Tucson. I've been there. You didn't connect with New Orleans. You aren't the first. Some connect and understand and some don't. Just like you said....It's like people. New Orleans and SierraAZ just don't work. We're laid back in this city---real laid back. I'm truly not offended. That's what you need to realize. I understand. You aren't the first that could't make the connection work. We know all don't connect, but, we appreciate your visit. The vibes here are unusually strong and we know that--you have to catch that vibe. It can be hard and if you don't, we still love ya! Come back some time.
It's not about Mardi Gras, alon. Actually I kinda enjoyed that. I also had 2 full days outside of it. As I said, I'm a European and the lifestyle in Phoenix and Tucson is not my lifestyle. That's the reason I've always had this romantic notion about NOLA and desire to visit. To me it's way far removed from Europe. It's just that voicing my opinions on this local forum would be offensive and I don't wanna do that.
03-01-2009, 11:35 PM
Location: New Orleans, LA
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It's not necessary. Mardi Gras wasn't you. You aren't the first person I've come across that didn't care for Mardi Gras. You have to like to party, you have to like crowds, you have to be open to gay people, you have to be a serious seeker of fun through interaction with others, you have to like complete interaction with others, etc. I'm glad you came. And I'm glad you gave it a shot. And I'm glad you realized it isn't for you. When it isn't for you, you can be quite miserable with the experience. Don't read me wrong. My own parents live in New Orleans and don't care for Mardi Gras. They left town and went to the MS Gulf coast for the day. I have quite a few friends that leave town and go skiing in Colorado. And remember, only 50% of those that live in the New Orleans Metro area even partake in one parade. Half of the city doesn't even participate. My sister went shopping for the day. It wasn't for you. It's not that big of a deal. I'm impressed you gave it a shot. Some love it, some don't. You don't. No biggie. Seriously. Maybe one day you can try New Orleans again when it isn't Mardi Gras and you'll see how it is here during "normal times." I don't know where you went or who you met. I do know that New Orleans is completely different than Phoenix and Tucson. I've been there. You didn't connect with New Orleans. You aren't the first. Some connect and understand and some don't. Just like you said....It's like people. New Orleans and SierraAZ just don't work. We're laid back in this city---real laid back. I'm truly not offended. That's what you need to realize. I understand. You aren't the first that could't make the connection work. We know all don't connect, but, we appreciate your visit. The vibes here are unusually strong and we know that--you have to catch that vibe. It can be hard and if you don't, we still love ya! Come back some time.
BTW....clearly if someone is annoyed about waiting for a ferry ride because Zulu is arriving is definitely not having a good time and it truly waiting for time to pass. Seems uptight for Mardi Gras, but, maybe you don't get it. At Mardi Gras you don't worry about how long it takes the ferry to cross the river. You're mentality wasn't in it from the start it seems.
03-01-2009, 11:40 PM
Location: New Orleans, LA
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It's not about Mardi Gras, alon. Actually I kinda enjoyed that. I also had 2 full days outside of it. As I said, I'm a European and the lifestyle in Phoenix and Tucson is not my lifestyle. That's the reason I've always had this romantic notion about NOLA and desire to visit. To me it's way far removed from Europe. It's just that voicing my opinions on this local forum would be offensive and I don't wanna do that.
Lay it out....you can't offend New Orleanians. Just make sure it is real and not prudish. Tell us what happened. You can't offend us. That almost seems snobby. Place your concerns on the board. Were you arrested? Did someone pick-pocket you? Offend US. No teasing. What happened to you at Mardi Gras?
03-01-2009, 11:49 PM
Location: Tucson
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BTW....clearly if someone is annoyed about waiting for a ferry ride because Zulu is arriving is definitely not having a good time and it truly waiting for time to pass. Seems uptight for Mardi Gras, but, maybe you don't get it. At Mardi Gras you don't worry about how long it takes the ferry to cross the river. You're mentality wasn't in it from the start it seems.
Well, you're making me say what I didn't wanna say... Sorry. I could not stand the stench all over, the dilapidation, the neglect... This has nothing to do with Katrina (the areas I was in were not even affected) or Mardi Gras. And yes, I was ready to leave at any given time. Shoot me! I find the whole city, food, etc. highly overrated. The locals are not particularly friendly, either, and a reverse racism seems to be in place.
03-02-2009, 12:09 AM
Location: New Orleans, LA
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LOL....I thought that was it. You are West Coast. You think New Orleans is nasty at Mardi Gras? LOL....SO DO WE!!! It's ashamed that you came to the city at Mardi Gras. Reverse discrimination is an issue, but, it is more prevalent at Mardi Gras. You don't offend me. You're being honest. But, you remind me of what we DON'T want to be in New Orleans. And we aren't. You're motivations are like the rest of America's. And we don't have those motivations in New Orleans. We love life, not money. I'm not offended. That is why I said you couldn't offend New Orleanians. Without me sounding snobby, because I'm not, but, we've come across individuals like you before. Locals not friendly? You didn't meet too many. You didn't come Uptown. New Orleans is a city that is in the midst of over $85 Billion in investment (only $10 Billion is public money). You speak of dilapidation? Welcome to an urban America city that is older than the country that was hit by a horrible natural disaster 4 years ago. We're working on it and progressing well. You said it, and you didn't hurt me or us. We're laid back. Things that are important to us in life aren't for others. Life is real here. It is real. Material longings are an afterthought. Those things are simple to us. Spiritual well being is what is important to us. Come back in a few months when I plan on posting another photo thread of life in this city. Unfortunately, (and don't take this the wrong way), but, we view people like you as snobs and viewing life in ways that we pride ourselves in not viewing that way. But, you get a Mardi Gras pass, since this was your first visit. You missed the boat on this visit or you came with the wrong attitude (which is common from those from the West). I'll give you a little New Orleans as I close out and go to bed--still love ya! Come back and contact me. I can turn your opinion around. Good night!
03-02-2009, 02:08 PM
Location: Jackson, MS
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I can definitely vouch for the stinch that can be found/smelled during Mardi Gras. It reminds me of the film of party gravy on a college apartment floor the morning after a big party. As much fun as those parties were, it always sucked having to clean it up. Luckily for us, we don't have to clean the streets up after Mardi Gras. It's been several years since my last Mardi Gras in Nola, but I definitely plan on making it to a future one. A lot of my friends from central MS and the MS, AL, and FL coast go down there every year, and I always feel like I'm missing out.
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People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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