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Old 09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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As far as the racial references - I don't know quite how to respond, apart from the fact that it's sad that bad and black automatically go together in many people's minds. I actually don't know this area well, but I do know Woodlawn quite well (Bluedog's suggestion). It's a nice neighborhood, but the people who I know who live there say that parking is very tight, particularly if you're coming home late. It's surprising, since Woodlawn is mostly houses with driveways, but I doubt you'd have an easy time finding on-street parking there late in the evening.
Even middleclass black niegborhoods wuch as wakefield coop city, Canarsie, St Albans, Laurlton and cambria are all considered bad areas because of gun play as usual. I do agree though that any thing that goes with black has to be bad. As for carpenter 227 that area is not a good area, its mostly hispanic with long standing African American population, the area is full of tenenments with most of the tenents being section8 Dominicans and and Black Americans. I have some family in this area and most of the times it can get worse then the areas of the South Bronx. By Bronx Boulevard the park is nice but you have to watch out sometimes for foxes and Raccoons. I have a family who live on 222nd street and the corner of white plains road, the area is a drug bazzar which is fueled by Jamaican and dealers east of white plains road and by Dominicans west of west of white plains Road by carpenter. Four weeks ago on carpenter avenue a guy was killed because he defended his brother who was getting jumped over a cellphone. A group of five thugs attacked and his brother and the victim ran over to help his brother and was shot and killed all the youths. A few months ago a Dominican guy bouned for College was killed by his building near Carpenter avenue. I have a cousin and some locals in that area wanna kill him too. Its so bad that when criminals commit acts in that area, that they bound planes for Jamaica, DR and the South and wait there notirerity to go down. To the op, your better off moving somewhere else, hell your even better off living in parts of the South Bronx compared to Williamsbridge.
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Old 09-02-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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That area sounds pretty bad, and if it's mostly black you can expect a daily routine of racial harrassment walking around there if you're white.
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Old 09-02-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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Even middleclass black niegborhoods wuch as wakefield coop city, Canarsie, St Albans, Laurlton and cambria are all considered bad areas because of gun play as usual. I do agree though that any thing that goes with black has to be bad. As for carpenter 227 that area is not a good area, its mostly hispanic with long standing African American population, the area is full of tenenments with most of the tenents being section8 Dominicans and and Black Americans. I have some family in this area and most of the times it can get worse then the areas of the South Bronx. By Bronx Boulevard the park is nice but you have to watch out sometimes for foxes and Raccoons. I have a family who live on 222nd street and the corner of white plains road, the area is a drug bazzar which is fueled by Jamaican and dealers east of white plains road and by Dominicans west of west of white plains Road by carpenter. Four weeks ago on carpenter avenue a guy was killed because he defended his brother who was getting jumped over a cellphone. A group of five thugs attacked and his brother and the victim ran over to help his brother and was shot and killed all the youths. A few months ago a Dominican guy bouned for College was killed by his building near Carpenter avenue. I have a cousin and some locals in that area wanna kill him too. Its so bad that when criminals commit acts in that area, that they bound planes for Jamaica, DR and the South and wait there notirerity to go down. To the op, your better off moving somewhere else, hell your even better off living in parts of the South Bronx compared to Williamsbridge.
All useful information - it certainly sounds like the OP would not want to live there, but again, I don't comment on or make judgements about areas that I don't know much about. The poster who basically said don't move there because it's very very very black, providing no other information, seemed silly.
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Old 09-02-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Hate to be the PC police but why do people feel the need to bring the racial component into things? Just say its a crummy nabe or that its dangerous.
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Old 09-02-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: South Bronx
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More evidence by the comments in this thread that NYC is a mostly segregated city..
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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When you enter the 6 train at E59th street you are in the seventh richest congressional district in the nation. About 18 minutes and 9 stops later you are in the poorest.

Harlem, Washington Heights and Mott Haven make up one of the largest racially segregated concentrations of poor people in our nation.
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Old 09-02-2011, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Glendale NY
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When you enter the 6 train at E59th street you are in the seventh richest congressional district in the nation. About 18 minutes and 9 stops later you are in the poorest.

Harlem, Washington Heights and Mott Haven make up one of the largest racially segregated concentrations of poor people in our nation.
Yeah I pointed out before if you check the census there's one tract in the Upper East Side with a medium income of around $250,000 and directly above it is one that's barely above $20,000.

Even when you drive around the city you notice it, one time my friend dropped me off and went the wrong way down Cooper Avenue and ended up in Bushwick 5 minutes later, he was surprised my house was so close to a ghetto.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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Even middleclass black niegborhoods wuch as wakefield coop city, Canarsie, St Albans, Laurlton and cambria are all considered bad areas because of gun play as usual. I do agree though that any thing that goes with black has to be bad. As for carpenter 227 that area is not a good area, its mostly hispanic with long standing African American population, the area is full of tenenments with most of the tenents being section8 Dominicans and and Black Americans. I have some family in this area and most of the times it can get worse then the areas of the South Bronx. By Bronx Boulevard the park is nice but you have to watch out sometimes for foxes and Raccoons. I have a family who live on 222nd street and the corner of white plains road, the area is a drug bazzar which is fueled by Jamaican and dealers east of white plains road and by Dominicans west of west of white plains Road by carpenter. Four weeks ago on carpenter avenue a guy was killed because he defended his brother who was getting jumped over a cellphone. A group of five thugs attacked and his brother and the victim ran over to help his brother and was shot and killed all the youths. A few months ago a Dominican guy bouned for College was killed by his building near Carpenter avenue. I have a cousin and some locals in that area wanna kill him too. Its so bad that when criminals commit acts in that area, that they bound planes for Jamaica, DR and the South and wait there notirerity to go down. To the op, your better off moving somewhere else, hell your even better off living in parts of the South Bronx compared to Williamsbridge.
It's not really mostly Hispanic with a long-standing Black population: It's kind of the opposite. There are more Hispanics as you go further south.

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More evidence by the comments in this thread that NYC is a mostly segregated city..
It actually isn't that segregated, when you think about it. Overall, you don't see a whole lot of areas that are 90% White, Black, Hispanic, or Asian. It's more mixed that that. You might have an area that's mostly Black and Hispanic, or mostly White and Hispanic, but overall, there aren't a whole bunch of all-Black or all-White neighborhoods. There are many more in other cities, such as Detroit.

For example, you may think of Brownsville as a mostly Black neighborhood, but it actually has a decent-sized Hispanic population.

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When you enter the 6 train at E59th street you are in the seventh richest congressional district in the nation. About 18 minutes and 9 stops later you are in the poorest.

Harlem, Washington Heights and Mott Haven make up one of the largest racially segregated concentrations of poor people in our nation.
See my comment above.
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Old 09-03-2011, 05:15 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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In case anyone cares about facts,the neighborhood the OP originally asked about is 61% Black,27% Hispanic,9% Asian,2% other,1% White.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Bronx, NY
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It's not really mostly Hispanic with a long-standing Black population: It's kind of the opposite. There are more Hispanics as you go further south.



See my comment above.
Bingo. I don't know where Guyanese gets that the area is mostly Hispanic.
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