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Old 03-24-2013, 01:43 PM
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Well I think you are not looking at this critically. The reason why the Bronx seemingly has higher rents as a whole is because Manhattan was filled with the destitute in horrendous/poor quality tenements...while the Bronx built new, quality housing = higher rents. Does this mean the Bronx was "wealthier"..no..it means people were willing to pay more to get out of the horrendous living conditions as there were no options before. They were simply stuck in slums.
But those stuck in slums would be poorer? Rents aren't exactly the same as income — they're supply and demand dependent but they are an indicator. I saw a 1960 census summary of New York City (can't find the link at the moment) and the median income of Manhattan was the lowest of the metro, lower than The Bronx by a large margin.
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Old 03-24-2013, 02:39 PM
 
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Bronxguyanese, Check out Diane Sawyer's made in America series. It was nuts. They took a house in the Midwest and stripped everything that wasn't made in the USA. The place looked worse than a pair of crack addicts can do do a vacant. Not only the Bronx but this country needs to start producing items. Not everyone can be a government worker.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:12 PM
 
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Bronxguyanese, Check out Diane Sawyer's made in America series. It was nuts. They took a house in the Midwest and stripped everything that wasn't made in the USA. The place looked worse than a pair of crack addicts can do do a vacant. Not only the Bronx but this country needs to start producing items. Not everyone can be a government worker.
It's real sad bro, real sad. The problem is that here in NYC and much of America those that be want to produce more service instead of producing products and materials for consumers locally and abroad. When I read those subway posters fliers that Bloomberg advocates made in NYC, it only shows tech startups and media. Made in NY shouold be about making products.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:11 PM
 
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Too many investment bankers, hedge fund managers, and bond traders. Not enough people who actually make something.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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As many of you know, the Bronx used to have factories and other blue collar centric businesses. Yonkers as well.

NYC is very different today in its economic underpinings as several poolsters have already opined. I think that NYC has the potential to become economically more diverse with more hi-tech industries and also more transportation centric businesses. ONe thing that hurts that potentional future is our high schools. Recently an article expressed a very shocking statistic that 80% of NYC Public HS grads cannot read. Amazing and sad. NYC used to have the best public school system in the US uptil the 1960s, and we all know where that went. The well-meaning Liberal expansion into public education has created most of this mess. Without order and discipline in schools, there can be no learning. All kids get punished. Kids going to school not ready to learn, teachers who are overwhelmed with anti-social and undisciplined kids, and lack of parental reinforcement at home all combine to perpetuate a chronic underclass of kids who cannot work because they can't read or process data.

So the next time you meet a Liberal, tell 'em thanks for helping out our county so much...and for making the Bronx a bombshell and not a rose garden....
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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R small, NYC would be dead without the white collar workforce. Remember, these folks dine out, go for drinks, buy a cigar ( Macanudo not philly), go to sporting events, operas, plays, and take cabs. NYC would be Deadtroit without them.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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R small, NYC would be dead without the white collar workforce. Remember, these folks dine out, go for drinks, buy a cigar ( Macanudo not philly), go to sporting events, operas, plays, and take cabs. NYC would be Deadtroit without them.
Not even close, maybe a Camden.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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R small, NYC would be dead without the white collar workforce. Remember, these folks dine out, go for drinks, buy a cigar ( Macanudo not philly), go to sporting events, operas, plays, and take cabs. NYC would be Deadtroit without them.
Yes, but I was just making the point that NYC (and the US in general) would be better off and would have a stronger middle class if there were more good paying manufacturing jobs. How many financial sector jobs can this economy support?
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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Also, Detroit seems to be showing some signs of life recently.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:23 AM
 
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As many of you know, the Bronx used to have factories and other blue collar centric businesses. Yonkers as well.

NYC is very different today in its economic underpinings as several poolsters have already opined. I think that NYC has the potential to become economically more diverse with more hi-tech industries and also more transportation centric businesses. ONe thing that hurts that potentional future is our high schools. Recently an article expressed a very shocking statistic that 80% of NYC Public HS grads cannot read. Amazing and sad. NYC used to have the best public school system in the US uptil the 1960s, and we all know where that went. The well-meaning Liberal expansion into public education has created most of this mess. Without order and discipline in schools, there can be no learning. All kids get punished. Kids going to school not ready to learn, teachers who are overwhelmed with anti-social and undisciplined kids, and lack of parental reinforcement at home all combine to perpetuate a chronic underclass of kids who cannot work because they can't read or process data.

So the next time you meet a Liberal, tell 'em thanks for helping out our county so much...and for making the Bronx a bombshell and not a rose garden....
Both liberals and conservatives are bs my friend.

How do we fix a broken public education system?
How do we fix broken families and repair the family unit?
How do we bring back manufacturing and labor intensive jobs?
How do we tear down the CBX and rebuild the Third Avenue el?
How do we bring back community policing instead of stop and frisk rif raf?
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