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Old 08-02-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Starbucks employees are attractive? Since when?
I was actually thinking of Kaffe 1668.

But now you made me remember something about Starbucks. Try dropping by their Barnes & Noble Tribeca outlet at around 2pm weekdays. They have a very sociable, good-looking and tall shift manager (I keep failing to read her name in the tag). I also noticed that the lines during that time tend to be longer - lots of male office workers in long sleeved shirts trying to strike a conversation.

Now that gives me an idea on how to justify higher wages.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:31 AM
 
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Minimum Wage Hike and Big Macs Prices | ABC News - Yahoo!

Interesting, now they are going over the effects of raising the salary at McDonalds. New York started a TREND with these strikes against fast food places.
The article in the OP has been discredited:

Big Mac numbers too good to check—or to correct : Columbia Journalism Review
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:20 PM
 
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it does not even have that much to do with higher degrees .
earning higher wages only has to do with learning skills that are marketable and are harder to do . the things we can do for ourselves will always be low wage jobs..

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That's very vague talk, your comments about these "skills". Of course, what "skills" are in demand can change rather rapidly. Essentially, a huge percentage of the population isn't going to make much money.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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Higher wages will lead to higher operating costs and higher prices for fast food products and, thus, lower demand. Hence, Americans' health will improve because they'll eat less junk. Also, the higher wage and lower demand will lead to layoffs of fast-food workers. With no income, those laid-off people and their families will not be able to buy junk food.

This is a wonderful development.
Maybe with higher prices and LOWER demand, they'll offer a better selection of FOOD. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with you on the lower demand. Its good news!
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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I believe mathjak's point is that one should be continuously striving to learn new skills - either vertically (greater expertise) or horizontally (career shift) - precisely to respond to rapid changes in demand. It does not help anyone in this environment to be in the same position for 10 years whatever the job is.
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:53 PM
 
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What college students would work at McDonalds or Burger King?
who said anything about college
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:10 PM
 
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I believe mathjak's point is that one should be continuously striving to learn new skills - either vertically (greater expertise) or horizontally (career shift) - precisely to respond to rapid changes in demand. It does not help anyone in this environment to be in the same position for 10 years whatever the job is.
People have get confused with education vs skills in demand. you can have all kinds of degrees but if there are not enough jobs you are out of luck or to many qualified you will get lower wages.

the trick is to find things people do not want to do themselves or can't do.

the wages follow.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:35 PM
 
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People of all income classes go to McD's. You are making assumptions there...
True. Everybody loves Mc Donald's. Everybody loves Ronald Mc Donald. Young and old. Ronald is the national hero of America. Even bigger than Uncle Sam.
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:43 PM
 
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People have get confused with education vs skills in demand. you can have all kinds of degrees but if there are not enough jobs you are out of luck or to many qualified you will get lower wages.

the trick is to find things people do not want to do themselves or can't do.

the wages follow.
Again, extremely vague talk to the point of being useless. What skills, and how do you think people should learn them if education is not the route? And how do employers recognize you have these skills, if its not from a degree or certification?
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Old 08-02-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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don't misunderstand what i am saying. a degree no longer means higher wages automatically .. higher wages can be earned by learning a trade or skill that is in demand or having a degree that is in demand.

in fact just doing the things people don't want to do can earn you higher wages.

ever see what those guys get that clean out septic tanks or porta potty trucks?

my father inlaw made crazy money removing steam boilers and doing basement demolition work because few wanted to do it.

another friend had a great little business collecting old batteries and scrap metal.

our own employees at work who go in and remove the heavy motors and sewage ejector pumps from sites and bring them back to our shop make good money. very little skill needed but it is dirty heavy work few want to do.

the mere fact your are educated with a degree brings you little . you have people with masters making less than sanitation workers with high school diplomas , not that there is anything wrong with being a sanitation worker.
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