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Old 08-01-2013, 09:58 AM
 
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So the answer is to provide every job, for everyone, a decent wage with benefits, that way there are no people who can't afford the $10 burger and fries..see how easy that is? NO MORE WORRIES...NOTHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.
I think all McDonald minimum wage employees should get stock options too.

Do you think Kamisha serving you a Big Mac knows what a stock option is?
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Maybe you and your effete friends only dine on Starbucks Croissants and Organic Jelly so you just dont understand that many different people go to McDs.
Their customer base consists of low income adults. Sorry, can't post Neilsen but this should do:

You know the economy is bad when people can’t even afford McDonald’s
"But the bigger problem is that McDonald’s core customer base — older adults at the bottom of the income spectrum — are having a hard time affording what they’re selling"

When you add the numbers up and try to look beyond your small group of friends, the fact remains that McD depends on the low inocme segment for its customers.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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No worries. When the employer mandate from the Affordable Care Act kicks in, all these jobs will be reduced to part time or gone all together, so there is nothing to strike for if you have no job.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Honestly people shouldn't be eating at mcdonalds anyways. It's the same mentality that keeps poor countries poor. If your only demanding poor garbage trash then you are only going to be supplied with poor paying jobs.

Quite frankly those who eat at and work at fast food restaurants belong to a poor subculture of the US who if had been born in a third world would have never been able to crawl out of the ditch they were born in
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:12 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Here is a question: If everyone is all about free market, why would a private company like Fresh Direct get $135 million from NYC taxpayers to move their office from LIC to the Southern Bronx on public land? Just more of the same...pushing all the costs of business onto taxpayers with no benefit at all to taxpayers...another monumental fleecing. And it is getting worse.
Because the NYC government does not encourage a free market, along with most levels of government nowadays. You constantly push this idea that everyone from one camp agrees or disagrees with one side of every issue. I wouldn't unnaturally raise the wages of McDonald's workers or give tax breaks to businesses. Both should be reliant on free-market mechanisms.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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So the answer is to provide every job, for everyone, a decent wage with benefits, that way there are no people who can't afford the $10 burger and fries..see how easy that is? NO MORE WORRIES...NOTHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.
Holy moly! How has this never happened?! It's amazing that you're the first to figure this out! I'm calling our senators right now.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Honestly people shouldn't be eating at mcdonalds anyways. It's the same mentality that keeps poor countries poor. If your only demanding poor garbage trash then you are only going to be supplied with poor paying jobs.

Quite frankly those who eat at and work at fast food restaurants belong to a poor subculture of the US who if had been born in a third world would have never been able to crawl out of the ditch they were born in
More elitist trash from the Annals of the Nanny State.

Nothing wrong with eating at McDonalds. Nothing wrong with eating at Peter Lugers. Would I eat it everyday..no. So get off the high horse and stop thinking its fast food that is the problem. The problem is there are certain elements of society that are given to being fat.
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:31 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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$15 may seem like a lot to some, but it's not. Especially if you look at the minimum wage of 30 years ago. Adjusted today for inflation it would be well over $20 per hour. If employees were paid more fairly I'd be willing to bet they'd be much more productive. There would be more competition for the work, it would have actual value. People need to have dignity in what they do for a living. They also need to provide adequately for their families. Not everyone is born with a silver spoon or amazing connections. In a different set of circumstances you could very easily be them. Our first concern should be every working citizen having proper food and shelter, not how much the shareholders lost this quarter. Says a lot about our society as a whole.

This. ^^^^


It seems strange that while many Americans clamor for, and eat at fast food restaurants and fast food seems to be a permanent part of our landscape - perhaps equivalent to the many manufacturing jobs of the late 1800 and early 1900s - that became unionized and built the American middle class - that so many Americans want those who work there to be poor.

When did we become a nation that cheers on big business and looks with disdain upon people who are attempting to earn an honest living?
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'll pop champagne the day they shut down all the fast food places around here. Huzzah!
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Old 08-01-2013, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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The people who buy from McDonalds are by and large low income/poor (though I did patronize their Tribeca branch for coffee until I realized that Starbucks offered unlimited chocolate powder). They are the ones who can least afford higher food prices. Imagine if they had to pay $10 for burger & fries. Higher costs will be passed on to consumers one way or another. I'm OK with price increases but what about someone who makes $30K/year?

Another thing you need to consider is that with some reconfiguring of their work processes and automation, they need far less workers then they use today (observe some of the better-run Dunkin Donuts stores that are eating into their market share for breakfast food). They can actually eliminate a good portion of their staff and they will end up making zero. When wages are no longer justified, companies do look at automation as a way to cut headcount.
People of all income classes go to McD's. You are making assumptions there...
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