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Old 04-04-2015, 10:40 PM
 
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Secular Asians from Malaysia open a bar called Fat Tuesday on Good Friday catering to Southern Protestants. People are wondering why there was vile behavior? Seems like standard behavior for those from this rural Protestant culture.
I'm impressed you could tell what religion people practice by watching them throw a few chairs around on a video.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:45 PM
 
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Why something tells me the majority of these fools are from East New York, Brownsville, Jamaica and the Rockaways. SMH
Yup. Where they were abandoned from day 1 by the US education system which accounts for ~2 percent of the federal budget , while defense expenditures reach 15-20 percent: "Reap what you sow."
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:27 PM
 
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Yup. Where they were abandoned from day 1 by the US education system which accounts for ~2 percent of the federal budget , while defense expenditures reach 15-20 percent: "Reap what you sow."
So you don't hold their parents accountable at all? What about the first 5 years of their lives before entering the educational system, and what about the other 8 waking hours per day that the children are not in school from age 5 to 18?

I believe this fiasco begins at home. The schools are kept busy trying to clean up the mess the parents created by raising little monsters (that eventually become big monsters).
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Old 04-04-2015, 11:33 PM
 
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This is why casinos were never given the green light many years ago in NYC. There are just too much thuggery in many parts of NYC that eventually it will get out of hand and business won't be opened for long if it happens more often.
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Old 04-05-2015, 01:01 AM
 
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So you don't hold their parents accountable at all? What about the first 5 years of their lives before entering the educational system, and what about the other 8 waking hours per day that the children are not in school from age 5 to 18?

I believe this fiasco begins at home. The schools are kept busy trying to clean up the mess the parents created by raising little monsters (that eventually become big monsters).
Here's an excerpt for you via https://www.studentsfirst.org/EducationCrisis:

"Rather than helping level the playing field, our education system promotes inequality. Our schools are twice as likely to pair poor and minority students with brand new teachers and almost four times more likely to suspend black students than white students.3

Over the last decade, the problem has gotten worse. The achievement gap between low-income and wealthy students has grown significantly.4 Just as alarming, we still see large achievement gaps by race and ethnicity.5 Fewer than one in five African-American fourth graders is proficient in reading and Latino eighth graders are less than half as likely to be proficient in math as their white peers."


If I were a betting man, I'd bet that their parents had a similar(or worse) experience in regards to their education...
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:07 AM
 
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Secular Asians from Malaysia open a bar called Fat Tuesday on Good Friday catering to Southern Protestants. People are wondering why there was vile behavior? Seems like standard behavior for those from this rural Protestant culture.
When I first saw the video, I did not believe this was in NYC. I swore I thought this was in the South some where. I remember when I first tried Fat Tuesdays in Las Vegas 5 years ago. The tamarind flavored daiquiri made me dizzy. I was so broke that every so often I would grab free samples. Again when I visited New Orleans, I had Fat Tuesdays again. I wanted to know what the hoopla it was all about, I saw ghetto blacks and white trash whites waiting on a line for something. To my amazement they were waiting for Daiquiri.

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Seriously, we need gentrification to run through north Brooklyn and than east Brooklyn like a wild fire taking out everything in its path until it hits south Jamaica. I'd rather see a bunch of hipster transplants playing slots than a bunch of native savages brawling at a place they were supposed to go to for a party.
The limits of gentrification moving towards east is Bedstuy. I don't think gentrification can pass through Bedstuy or even past bushwick. East Brooklyn will never see any form of gentrification. Its way to far from the job centers of downtown Manhattan that back to the city movement suburban whites solely desire!

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But Liberty Avenue has sick Trini food. Can't lose the aloo pies and rotis, what else am I supposed to eat for a hangover? I'd rather the gentrification skip everything between the border of Brooklyn and Van Wyck and just carry on in South Jamaica
I ahvent been to Liberty Avenue in a long while. I didn't know it went from being Guyanese nabe to Trinidadian? Wow things change. Trini roti is very good. Don't worry that area too is way to far from Manhattan to receive any form of gentrification.

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This is why casinos were never given the green light many years ago in NYC. There are just too much thuggery in many parts of NYC that eventually it will get out of hand and business won't be opened for long if it happens more often.
The big problem has to do with the State of NY. The state is pushing for opening of casinos statewide. Casino is not a problem with NYC. The state needs a revenue generator and casinos provide a perfect cash cow to the state. Instead of opening casinos and creating more low wage jobs, the state should open up fracking so that more middle class jobs can be created. This incident would have never happened if the state did not push for opening of more casinos.

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Here's an excerpt for you via https://www.studentsfirst.org/EducationCrisis:

"Rather than helping level the playing field, our education system promotes inequality. Our schools are twice as likely to pair poor and minority students with brand new teachers and almost four times more likely to suspend black students than white students.3

Over the last decade, the problem has gotten worse. The achievement gap between low-income and wealthy students has grown significantly.4 Just as alarming, we still see large achievement gaps by race and ethnicity.5 Fewer than one in five African-American fourth graders is proficient in reading and Latino eighth graders are less than half as likely to be proficient in math as their white peers."

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that their parents had a similar(or worse) experience in regards to their education...
I agree here. inequality and elitism is on the rise in America , but also on the streets of NYC and it has become much worse now compared to when I was a child 20 years ago. Public education in America and in NYC is a shadow of its former days. The big thing now for most parents who live in urban dwellings is to send their kids to private schools, or privately/public funded charter and magnet schools. But at the same time the Feds cant be throwing money into a black hole every year and nothing happens. Even with gentrification of poor neighborhoods, the affluent parents do not send their kids to local public schools, but to either private or charter schools. Often at times poor people work long hours and are not home enough to see what their children are doing. Poor people work long hours and on election day they miss the chance to vote to make a change in their communities. Another big problem is that poor people tend not to marry and result into being single parents which makes raising children a bit harder especially if they don't have a support system of grand parents, uncles and aunts. These days in America, I feel that people need to be socially reengineered. Maybe a dose of Communism might help. But like the unfair unequal capitalist/democratic system of the USA, Communism too has its fair share of problems, but I wont get into that because its way off topic.

Last week I was at an academic function which is funded by the Feds and again the topic of elitism and inequality was brought up. I told someone that if you cant join Harvard or Yale, its going to be more hard to beat them when these Ivy types graduate and enter into the real world. Like I said before if you cant join them, you have to find a way to beat them.

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Old 04-05-2015, 02:19 AM
 
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Here's an excerpt for you via https://www.studentsfirst.org/EducationCrisis:

"Rather than helping level the playing field, our education system promotes inequality. Our schools are twice as likely to pair poor and minority students with brand new teachers and almost four times more likely to suspend black students than white students.3

Over the last decade, the problem has gotten worse. The achievement gap between low-income and wealthy students has grown significantly.4 Just as alarming, we still see large achievement gaps by race and ethnicity.5 Fewer than one in five African-American fourth graders is proficient in reading and Latino eighth graders are less than half as likely to be proficient in math as their white peers."


If I were a betting man, I'd bet that their parents had a similar(or worse) experience in regards to their education...
What about Asian immigrants? They are the poorest group in NYC, and yet the educational achievements of Asian Americans (first or second generation) put many Asians in substantial careers.

So clearly the Asian immigrants are pushing their kids to excel. Go to Asian neighborhoods like Elmhurst and Flushing and you'll find a variety of after school programs that tutor for the SAT and for other standardized tests.

The low income parents, are they investing money and time in their children's education?

If these parents are putting all the responsibility on the schools and on teachers, they are FAILING their CHILDREN. If you want a good education and future for your children, it's going to cost you effort, time, and money.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:24 AM
 
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What about Asian immigrants? They are the poorest group in NYC, and yet the educational achievements of Asian Americans (first or second generation) put many Asians in substantial careers.

So clearly the Asian immigrants are pushing their kids to excel. Go to Asian neighborhoods like Elmhurst and Flushing and you'll find a variety of after school programs that tutor for the SAT and for other standardized tests.

The low income parents, are they investing money and time in their children's education?

If these parents are putting all the responsibility on the schools and on teachers, they are FAILING their CHILDREN. If you want a good education and future for your children, it's going to cost you effort, time, and money.
Asians have a different cultural construct that values education and family unit vs the individualist neo devolved anglo saxon cultural system. Asians put in effort with their children. Western anglo saxon, regardless of rich or poor, black or white, they all expect the system to work regardless of how much money we through at private, or taxes that we pump into the school system. Parents have to take more initiative with their kids education.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:24 AM
 
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Another big problem is that poor people tend not to marry and result into being single parents which makes raising children a bit harder especially if they don't have a support system of grand parents, uncles and aunts. These days in America, I feel that people need to be socially reengineered. Maybe a dose of Communism might help. But like the unfair unequal capitalist/democratic system of the USA, Communism too has its fair share of problems, but I wont get into that because its way off topic.

Last week I was at an academic function which is funded by the Feds and again the topic of elitism and inequality was brought up. I told someone that if you cant join Harvard or Yale, its going to be more hard to beat them when these Ivy types graduate and enter into the real world. Like I said before if you cant join them, you have to find a way to beat them.
Family instability is a huge problem. A part of social engineering moving forward will need to be pushing birth control and abortion.

In older generations of my family, there were lots of children. But today people have far fewer kids, and it's been that way for awhile now. Meaning kids born today most likely won't have huge support networks of aunts and uncles. At the most they'll just have one or two. Grandparents? Depending on how old the grandparents are and the health of the grandparents.

I am going to say don't have kids until you find stability in relationships (marriage) and life.

Not trying to sound like a right winger but it isn't fair to your family, to the rest of society, and to the government to have kids you can't take care of yourself.
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Old 04-05-2015, 02:27 AM
 
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missing baby daddy's are the biggest cause of poverty and we all pay for it. .
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