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Old 12-19-2015, 08:22 AM
 
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Because he is the mayor. If this happened a few years back we'd be blaming Bloomberg. Prior to that Giuliani. As a mayor you accept accountability of the current situation going on in the city you are overseeing. That is why he is now firing people. He is starting to take action, and is now in search of a new strategy.
Homelessness has always been a major issue in NYC. During the previous administration, the homeless from other states simply chose not to stay in NYC long-term due to the unfriendly policies. Firing the director of homeless services will not fix or change the issue. NYC simply has become too expensive for the average low wage person, who doesn't receive section 8 housing, public housing and/or other subsidies.

Also, NYC has a very high number of drug addicts and mentally ill persons. Both groups are more likely to be homeless.
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Old 12-19-2015, 08:40 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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They are having the Homeless removed starting Jan 2nd.

Homeless reign over LaGuardia to come to an end: Port Authority | New York Post

Volunteers of America has an office there to help with shelter placement, However many of the shelters are places the homeless wont go to due to crowded dirty conditions and safety issues. Creedmoor facility is being eyed as a shelter now. More space is needed still, And the spaces need to be maintained well.

The ‘shock’ psych ward Cuomo may convert to homeless shelter | New York Post

Hope some solution is found in the future for these people.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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They are having the Homeless removed starting Jan 2nd.

Homeless reign over LaGuardia to come to an end: Port Authority | New York Post

Volunteers of America has an office there to help with shelter placement, However many of the shelters are places the homeless wont go to due to crowded dirty conditions and safety issues. Creedmoor facility is being eyed as a shelter now. More space is needed still, And the spaces need to be maintained well.

The ‘shock’ psych ward Cuomo may convert to homeless shelter | New York Post

Hope some solution is found in the future for these people.
I just read the first link to the Post article. My question is -- what were they waiting for? They already knew it was a big enough problem that they'd already started allocating many more police to LGA due to this issue, with the homeless stealing from stores and taking showers in the bathrooms.

And only NOW did they figure out a solution is to only allow ticketed passengers from 11 pm to 4 am? Such a simple solution but yet it takes an exposé in several newspapers and news outlets to get them to do anything about it.
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Old 12-19-2015, 02:50 PM
 
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99% of the homeless I see are not in that situation bc of house prices, the economy, etc. They are drunks and drugged out which leads to mental insanity, and to the point many are beyond any type of repair.

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I'm not sure why people are blaming De Blasio. The majority of low income people cannot afford to reside in NYC without housing subsidies. When public housing and subsidies are scarce, homelessness typically increases. This situation would occur under any NYC mayor.
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Old 12-19-2015, 02:54 PM
 
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99% of the homeless I see are not in that situation bc of house prices, the economy, etc. They are drunks and drugged out which leads to mental insanity, and to the point many are beyond any type of repair.
That kind of person is not stable enough go to through the SSI or any other welfare application process. They need institutional help in the form of mental hospitals or rehab. For those beyond repair they need to bring back long term mental hospitals for those who will never be able to take care of themselves in any kind of reasonable way.
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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That kind of person is not stable enough go to through the SSI or any other welfare application process. They need institutional help in the form of mental hospitals or rehab. For those beyond repair they need to bring back long term mental hospitals for those who will never be able to take care of themselves in any kind of reasonable way.
I agree. Some people love to jump up and down and shriek that all the homeless should be able to pull themselves together and find jobs and apartments, but I've volunteered at soup kitchens or similar places over the years. Many of those people are NEVER going to be able to care for themselves. Never. They might even be pleasant and say thank you for the food but they simply aren't all there, or at least pieces of their minds are off somewhere else. Tossing them out on the street with a cheery "Don't forget to take your pills!" didn't work.
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Old 12-20-2015, 07:58 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I agree. Some people love to jump up and down and shriek that all the homeless should be able to pull themselves together and find jobs and apartments, but I've volunteered at soup kitchens or similar places over the years. Many of those people are NEVER going to be able to care for themselves. Never. They might even be pleasant and say thank you for the food but they simply aren't all there, or at least pieces of their minds are off somewhere else. Tossing them out on the street with a cheery "Don't forget to take your pills!" didn't work.
This is true. Many have physical health issues as well. I saw one just last night on Times Square with what appeared to be a swollen bandaged leg. These may be caused by, and certainly aggravated by living on the street and no regular access to showers, Proper nutrition and exposure to the elements and unsanitary sleeping areas. There are often younger, healthier people who can and do pull themselves out of homelessness. In many of these cases the time homeless is short lived. it's different and harder when a person is out there longer also. Really sucks seeing all this, Esp the last few days with people out in the cold like that.
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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I agree. Some people love to jump up and down and shriek that all the homeless should be able to pull themselves together and find jobs and apartments, but I've volunteered at soup kitchens or similar places over the years. Many of those people are NEVER going to be able to care for themselves. Never. They might even be pleasant and say thank you for the food but they simply aren't all there, or at least pieces of their minds are off somewhere else. Tossing them out on the street with a cheery "Don't forget to take your pills!" didn't work.
Why is homelessness much less of a problem in - say - vienna?
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Old 12-20-2015, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Between the Bays
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Homelessness has always been a major issue in NYC. During the previous administration, the homeless from other states simply chose not to stay in NYC long-term due to the unfriendly policies. Firing the director of homeless services will not fix or change the issue. NYC simply has become too expensive for the average low wage person, who doesn't receive section 8 housing, public housing and/or other subsidies.

Also, NYC has a very high number of drug addicts and mentally ill persons. Both groups are more likely to be homeless.
Maybe you're right. We should just do nothing about it.
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Old 12-20-2015, 12:19 PM
 
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That kind of person is not stable enough go to through the SSI or any other welfare application process. They need institutional help in the form of mental hospitals or rehab. For those beyond repair they need to bring back long term mental hospitals for those who will never be able to take care of themselves in any kind of reasonable way.
Agreed. I'm stopping to care about homeless people.
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