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Has anyone seen those little old Chinese ladies on 5th Avenue near Mount Sinai? They have a mini factory of cans and the like. It's all very organized. I'm amazed at how many cans and bottles they find. At least 10 big bags worth of them and then they separate everything.
I work not far from Chinatown.....I have seen bags of cans stacked about 15 feet high balanced perfectly on a shopping cart rolling down Chambers Street.....I should have taken a pic.
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OP: your heart is in the right place, but, ultimately, if you want to get rid of this and similar measures, you're going to have to move out of left-wing NYC.
Pro collectors (the dudes that work overnight) make about 50$ in six hours a day for bottles.
I don't see how it's possible. At $0.05 a unit you need to be collecting 1000 cans & bottles, or 167 per hour
And that's not including the time to run the can through the validation machine which isn't that efficient and will probably fill up fast and need the guy to come over and empty it
in NYC nobody is going to give a crap about paying a few extra cents for bags
For those that don't, it's an extra revenue source for the city. For those that do, they will just tell the cashier they don't need the bag. Especially for small purchases, or if one is already carrying some sort of bag.
I don't see how it's possible. At $0.05 a unit you need to be collecting 1000 cans & bottles, or 167 per hour
And that's not including the time to run the can through the validation machine which isn't that efficient and will probably fill up fast and need the guy to come over and empty it
I asked the dude that does our building a few years ago, he said he made 50$ give or take 10$ typically. I dunno. I went searching for validation, since "some dude told me that" isn't much to go by. Found a NY Times article from last year that also says $50/day. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/10/m...-and-cans.html
Also found a NY Times article from 2011 that also says $50/day. Bottle and Can Scavengers in Brooklyn Make Every Penny Count - The New York Times
But yeah, I hear you, that is a lot of bottles. Probably why they run those carts with all the huge bags tied to every side and on top.
For those that don't, it's an extra revenue source for the city. For those that do, they will just tell the cashier they don't need the bag. Especially for small purchases, or if one is already carrying some sort of bag.
Well, the state blocked it so it isn't going to happen. Apparently. But FWIW the NYC one had the 5 cents staying with the stores, NOT going to the city.
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Is this a tax?
No. Stores will keep the bag fee paid by the customer; the City will not receive any revenue from enacting the Carryout Bag Law.
I don't see how it's possible. At $0.05 a unit you need to be collecting 1000 cans & bottles, or 167 per hour
And that's not including the time to run the can through the validation machine which isn't that efficient and will probably fill up fast and need the guy to come over and empty it
I guess if you know which days the recycling is put out to the curb and know which buildings are most likely to have a lot of bottles, it could be done?
I guess if you know which days the recycling is put out to the curb and know which buildings are most likely to have a lot of bottles, it could be done?
That is what they do. The dude that hits our building is regular for years, he knows when they go out. There are 72 units here, and an awful lot of bottles in the many bags of recycling. We aren't talking about the guys that are out picking a bottle here and there out of corner trash cans. These are the dudes out in front of your building at 2am making a racket going through all the recycles. I guarantee the dude that does our building loads more than 167 in an hour.
Rather, the point is, in a democracy, how to achieve a so-called “worthy” objective.
The city council and de Blasio took the simplest, easiest way by DICTATING to others to change their lifestyle.
Without approval from a proposition on the ballot, politicians must NEVER change their electorate’s lifestyle and expect to be reelected.
There are non-dictatorial ways, as previously discussed, to achieve their objective.
Because of their dictatorial approach, we need a Trump-like shakeup of city hall.
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