New Pub from Gay Sports Bar Owner Would Bring 'Evils' to Chelsea: Locals

[nybbler]

Originally Posted by barkomatic

I live in Chelsea, and several straight bars and restaurants which serve alcohol have opened in the last few years yet I never saw flyers around protesting them and their patrons "rowdy behavior".

You weren't looking. I remember a campaign against a bar a few years ago, stickers everywhere.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by BugsyPal

Remember Chelsea, West Village, Far West Side from the 1980's and 1990's, when it was far more gritty than today. Things really began taking off not when the gays began moving down there, but the effects of the High Line and other rezoning.


Much of Chelsea and West Village were what it had been for decades; a largely working to middle class area with a smattering of money here and there. It wasn't *that* long ago you could have gotten a RS apartment in London Terrace for not that much (relative) money.


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Wealth brought in by the High Line drove out the gays, trannies and others who had made the Meatpacking District their stomping grounds for ages. Yes, Sex in the City helped but things really took off with the whole "Save the High Line" thing.


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Even after the gays moved onto 8th Avenue from Christopher Street there was a battle between forces of gentrification and the "old timers" who lived in those tenements, SROs and other buildings on the avenue and street.


The other thing we've not mentioned was when Rudy G "cleaned up" Times Square shutting down all the porn shops. Well the new laws meant they scattered elsewhere, and one of those areas was 8th Avenue from about 14th up through 34th. Today there still is at least one (that I've seen) porn store on 8th not far from FIT.

There are still 3 porn stores between 14th and 34th. In the past couple of years, however, 2 porn stores in that area closed. Yes save the High Line and turning it into a park stepped up the gentrification in that area enormously. But there's one thing you forgot. The 34th Street extension and the related Hudson Yards development also has tremendous impact on West Chelsea, particularly above 23rd street, and definitely in the 30s and upper 20s. In the past 20 years the city did a lot of initiatives to clean the area up, such as repairing certain piers/the Hudson River Park, building of the Chelsea Piers Sports and Entertainment Complex, etc.

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

There are still 3 porn stores between 14th and 34th. In the past couple of years, however, 2 porn stores in that area closed. Yes save the High Line and turning it into a park stepped up the gentrification in that area enormously. But there's one thing you forgot. The 34th Street extension and the related Hudson Yards development also has tremendous impact on West Chelsea, particularly above 23rd street, and definitely in the 30s and upper 20s. In the past 20 years the city did a lot of initiatives to clean the area up, such as repairing certain piers/the Hudson River Park, building of the Chelsea Piers Sports and Entertainment Complex, etc.

Hudson Yards is icing on the cake for Chelsea/West Side below 34th Street. That ship called gentrification had long sailed.


Hudson Yards will and is having a huge impact on area around 34th Street and going north; especially the JJ convention center.


City for years had been trying to develop that part of Manhattan but it mostly remained what it was. Auto repair and taxi garages, some light manufacturing, warehouses, UPS and car dealerships. Oh and trannies from that bar somewhere up there.


Far West and otherwise Chelsea at least had the bones of a neighborhood since residential had long been there; Hudson Yards and "Far West Side" is truly creating a new area since not much was there in terms of living.