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Old 06-20-2019, 05:51 PM
 
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If Asians smarten up and realize democrats are *not* their friends, it could put a quick end to this here nonsense. Long as they behave like some other usual demographics democrats will take their votes for granted and remain in power.

Notice that Liu guy now in Albany isn't helping their cause.
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Old 06-20-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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If Asians smarten up and realize democrats are *not* their friends, it could put a quick end to this here nonsense. Long as they behave like some other usual demographics democrats will take their votes for granted and remain in power.

Notice that Liu guy now in Albany isn't helping their cause.
Nah, no party is anyone's friend. Vote on the people and the issues and be pragmatic about it which means participating early and in primaries. Thanks for your advice though--I'll relay this incredible knowledge you have to the rest of the Asians in hopes we can smarten up to be as smart as you

Also, what's got you down on Liu?

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Old 06-21-2019, 07:33 AM
 
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you do realize you contradicted yourself by saying don't base it on test scores, but then you threw in an arbitrary value of 90% + "other qualities", right?
so you just screwed over the guy that got 89% and had excellent "qualities".

and what are these qualities? who is determining them, and judging them? sounds very subjective and ripe for bias.
I see no contradiction in what I'm saying. I don't think you completely understood my point. People who score over 90% (just throwing a number out there as I don't know exactly what number should be used as the minimum barrier of entry in this particular case) are already in the far tail of the distribution, meaning they're already very capable of achieving extraordinary results and there's not a whole lot of difference between them, from academic achievement standpoint. These people are already academically talented, but they can be vastly different in other qualities. So, once a tail of academically talented students is identified, you need to use other factors, e.g. character, race, socioeconomic background, etc. to create a more balanced student body. Taking only the highest scoring students will never create that balance.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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So you are a racist, because you think being from a certain race makes one person more qualified than being from another race?

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I see no contradiction in what I'm saying. I don't think you completely understood my point. People who score over 90% (just throwing a number out there as I don't know exactly what number should be used as the minimum barrier of entry in this particular case) are already in the far tail of the distribution, meaning they're already very capable of achieving extraordinary results and there's not a whole lot of difference between them, from academic achievement standpoint. These people are already academically talented, but they can be vastly different in other qualities. So, once a tail of academically talented students is identified, you need to use other factors, e.g. character, race, socioeconomic background, etc. to create a more balanced student body. Taking only the highest scoring students will never create that balance.
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:44 AM
 
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So you are a racist, because you think being from a certain race makes one person more qualified than being from another race?
Huh?
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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You said race is one of the qualities used in admission decisions

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Huh?
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Old 06-21-2019, 08:57 AM
 
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You said race is one of the qualities used in admission decisions
I am of opinion that race should be a factor in admission, for equally or similarly qualified students. I don't see how that makes me a racist. You might want to look up the definition of racist.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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because you think one race is superior than another race.
it is the same as you hire someone because of their race. Is it racist?

A lot of racists don't believe they are actually racists

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I am of opinion that race should be a factor in admission, for equally or similarly qualified students. I don't see how that makes me a racist. You might want to look up the definition of racist.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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because you think one race is superior than another race.
it is the same as you hire someone because of their race. Is it racist?

A lot of racists don't believe they are actually racists
You're an idiot. I never said one race is superior to another.
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Old 06-21-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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because you are a racist. you said race should be used in admission decisions. why to your racist mind, discrimation against white or asians are justified. what a racist and hypocrit

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You're an idiot. I never said one race is superior to another.
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