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Old 02-11-2019, 06:50 AM
 
Location: NYC
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They’re pretty scary when they are shooting at you...
Gun loving gun massacre shooters with legal guns are scarier
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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Either way, undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than citizens along almost every measure.

I don't know if that's true. But even it is, we have to put up with crime caused by our own citizens. We shouldn't have to suffer any crime from illegals, because they shouldn't be here in the first place.

Your house is a mess. Then one day a burglar breaks in, and makes more mess. Is it a valid excuse for him to say, "Hey, what's the big deal? Your mess was bigger than mine?"
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Gods country
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Gun loving gun massacre shooters with legal guns are scarier
This thread is about an illegal criminal alien Mexican gang banger. Considering that you are living in NYC, with its unconditional gun laws which prevent the vast majority of residents to own a firearm legally, people like the subject of this thread are more likely to kill you.
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:09 AM
 
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This is where people on the left go off the rails. Always trying to down play heinous crimes by gang members as no big deal. It's pure politics. I hate Trump and think the wall is stupid, but I won't suspend all common sense and decency to say that illegal immigrant gangs aren't a serious issue just to spite Trump supporters. It's really sad and pathetic that this is how any grown up thinks.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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I won't be surprised, but ICE also lies, so I won't be surprised if it's not true, either.

Either way, undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than citizens along almost every measure.

(Do we get headlines about citizenship every time some US-born monster shoots his girlfriend? No, we don't. That's way more likely to happen to anyone than being killed by a person not here legally.)

Why does it matter? Do you think somebody who loses a loved one to an illegal killing really cares about that stat?

It's like we shouldn't lock our doors at night because some people will still have somebody break into their homes so what's the point?

Bottom line is that person would be alive today if that Ms13 was not in our country.

We will always have citizens breaking laws. That's OUR PROBLEM. We have to deal with it.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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This thread is about an illegal criminal alien Mexican gang banger. Considering that you are living in NYC, with its unconditional gun laws which prevent the vast majority of residents to own a firearm legally, people like the subject of this thread are more likely to kill you.
He is not Mexican, he is from El Salvador
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:48 PM
 
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This is where people on the left go off the rails. Always trying to down play heinous crimes by gang members as no big deal. It's pure politics. I hate Trump and think the wall is stupid, but I won't suspend all common sense and decency to say that illegal immigrant gangs aren't a serious issue just to spite Trump supporters. It's really sad and pathetic that this is how any grown up thinks.
That is exactly how I feel. They don't think it matters just because white Americsn guys do mass shootings sometimes
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:16 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Non issue Trumpies trying to politicize anything related to illegals.
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Non issue Trumpies trying to politicize anything related to illegals.
Of course it's being politicized. They think it proves them right
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Old 02-11-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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Non issue Trumpies trying to politicize anything related to illegals.
It is a POLICY issue. These gangs wouldn't have nearly the power they have if they didn't have a never ending stream of vulnerable or willing recruits. It's just a fact. Because you hate Trump doesn't change that.

This is the problem with current discourse. You're either all in against Trump or all in for him, regardless of what actually makes sense on a particular policy issue. It's stupid team sports groupthink.
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