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When people talk about Fort Greene, they’re usually talking about quaint brownstone Fort Greene, but the fact of the matter is a huge portion of the population lives in housing projects in the northern part of Fort Greene. Park Slope has zero housing projects, just proximity to some and Bed-Stuy is a massive neighborhood that runs a gamut. There’s been a large hasidic increase in the northwestern parts of Bed-Stuy and a lot of transplant gentrification on the western and southern part of Bed-Stuy and that’s the part that’s grown as an extension of gentrified brownstone Brooklyn. The most recent trend is that the northern part of Bed-Stuy is also seeing a bit of gentrification and that’s through a younger crowd that’s been growing with North Brooklyn Williamsburg and Bushwick.
I don't think many people realize the number of housing projects at Park Slope's doorsteps, to include Warren Street Gardens and Wycoff Gardens. These projects are literally within 2 blocks or less of Park Slope's western border.
I don't think many people realize the number of housing projects at Park Slope's doorsteps, to include Warren Street Gardens and Wycoff Gardens. These projects are literally within 2 blocks or less of Park Slope's western border.
It's not comparable to Bed-Stuy
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I don't think many people realize the number of housing projects at Park Slope's doorsteps, to include Warren Street Gardens and Wycoff Gardens. These projects are literally within 2 blocks or less of Park Slope's western border.
Right, but there’s still a proximity difference of having them in the neighborhood and a couple blocks away. Also, those projects aren’t the size of the Fort Greene ones (and bordering Fort Greene ones, like the massive Farragut houses) nor a few of the Bed-Stuy ones.
Bed-Stuy is a large heterogeneous neighborhood. There’s definitely heavy gentrification going on especially on its western, southwestern parts, but the overall census stats sort of lose detail. Some people use percentage increase of white non-hispanic populations as a proxy for gentrification, but it’s especially difficult with Bed-Stuy given its size. One factor is that a substantial component of the white non-hispanic population is spillover from south Williamsburg of the burgeoning Hasidic community which occupies and often owns a lot of the buildings in the northwest portion. Another is that gentrification in Bed-Stuy also has a sizable working professional black component to it.
Bed Stuy as a whole, I agree. But when talking about substantial parts of Bed Stuy, that's more debatable.
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Right, but there’s still a proximity difference of having them in the neighborhood and a couple blocks away. Also, those projects aren’t the size of the Fort Greene ones (and bordering Fort Greene ones, like the massive Farragut houses) nor a few of the Bed-Stuy ones.
Bed-Stuy is a large heterogeneous neighborhood. There’s definitely heavy gentrification going on especially on its western, southwestern parts, but the overall census stats sort of lose detail. Some people use percentage increase of white non-hispanic populations as a proxy for gentrification, but it’s especially difficult with Bed-Stuy given its size. One factor is that a substantial component of the white non-hispanic population is spillover from south Williamsburg of the burgeoning Hasidic community which occupies and often owns a lot of the buildings in the northwest portion. Another is that gentrification in Bed-Stuy also has a sizable working professional black component to it.
I concur, especially as people tend to hang out immediately IVO their homes.
ITll be awhile. Bed Stuy is huge. Central and Eastern Bed Stuy isnt as gentrified as the west end of bed stuy. Plus the neighborhood has a few housing project complexes
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Just did some shopping up Broadway to Myrtle covering parts of Bed Stuy/Williamsburg/Bushwick.
My heart cried. I knew this neighborhood as a kid. Shopping, eats, you name it. The folks that resided
back then were poor but never pigs. Folks use to sweep in front of their stores and storefronts. Garbage now
littering corners,in streets and Graffiti ( so called art ) creating a panoramic background. A truly disturbing picture
of deeper despair. Don't worry. I was in disbelief to see couple of newly constructed low income buildings sprayed over
in graffiti. Gentrification..........I wish I could say something positive but ...sick to my stomach. Not in any time soon Pal.
Not any time soon................
ITll be awhile. Bed Stuy is huge. Central and Eastern Bed Stuy isnt as gentrified as the west end of bed stuy. Plus the neighborhood has a few housing project complexes
Gentrification skips pretty far east to around Utica Avenue, but only in the southern part of Bed-Stuy.
Bed Stuy is huge. Some parts are like what you described. Other parts not so much.
I agree bed Stuy is huge , last time I was there it was pretty tame and gentrified and that was even like 5 years ago . I think that area was close to the nostrand A train and LiRR . Not sure about the other areas , what is the worst area of bed Stuy ? Is it In the more northern area by all the projects ( Marcy , Tompkins , sumner ) ?
/\ I would think the projects along Myrtle along with the eastern reaches of the area would be the worse off.
Bed Stuy may never be Park Slope but I can see it becoming like Ft Greene. Very racially diverse with Black and White being the main flavors, but overwhelmingly professional/artsy across the board with poverty in the remaining NYCHA/Supportive/HUD housing that's scattered throughout. Basically what West Harlem is turning into as well.
/\ I would think the projects along Myrtle along with the eastern reaches of the area would be the worse off.
Bed Stuy may never be Park Slope but I can see it becoming like Ft Greene. Very racially diverse with Black and White being the main flavors, but overwhelmingly professional/artsy across the board with poverty in the remaining NYCHA/Supportive/HUD housing that's scattered throughout. Basically what West Harlem is turning into as well.
Black population in west Harlem is below 25% now, and losing about 1% point a year.
and that include all the people int eh grant houses.
10031
White alone 10,711 17.2%
Black or African American alone 15,176 24.3%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 31,640 50.7%
Asian alone 2,359 3.8%
And that data is from 2017 the real number should be around 20% by now.
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