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Old 12-17-2019, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Damn, that kid brutally murdered her.
What the hell is inside a kid that age that he could do that, ya know?
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:14 AM
 
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Opinion:
Like tho old saying goes. All crap rolls down hill.
Campus and affluence perched on a hill overlooking poverty and garbage below.
Know the location very well. Walked those steps many a time dawn and dusk.
Took me about 10 to 20 minutes from bottom to top. Best be on your guard at all times.
Poor kid was either naive of her surroundings or like many outgoing people, beautiful and unafraid.
Stay within your comfort zone school kids. There's a reason why security guards and law enforcement
has been buzzing for years all over this so called quaint little neighborhood. It's for your protection.
R.I.P. Kid................
She died close to the Guard Post.

You’re omitting that.

If anything the university and city failed her.

Supposedly the guard had walked away from his station when the assault happened, according to earlier posts.

The University could have had the city do more patrols in the area, but did not want to do due to the social justice concerns of some faculty and students
. That has now been undone as the University and the city are forced to address these issues.

She did nothing wrong and nothing to deserve this and shame on anyone who suggests otherwise.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:17 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Retired View Post
Opinion:
Like tho old saying goes. All crap rolls down hill.
Campus and affluence perched on a hill overlooking poverty and garbage below.
Know the location very well. Walked those steps many a time dawn and dusk.
Took me about 10 to 20 minutes from bottom to top. Best be on your guard at all times.
Poor kid was either naive of her surroundings or like many outgoing people, beautiful and unafraid.
Stay within your comfort zone school kids. There's a reason why security guards and law enforcement
has been buzzing for years all over this so called quaint little neighborhood. It's for your protection.
R.I.P. Kid................
You do have some very good points. On an ongoing basis the University is going to have to continue what it did to make the hill safe. They bought tenements and they bought SROs and moved the people out. They bought tenements that had been converted into NYCHA housing a few years ago. Now they are going to ultimately have to buy out Grant Houses and the Manhattanville projects. The neighborhood would be made so much better. Move all that ghetto out.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:32 AM
 
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https://www.columbiaspectator.com/ne...ompting-trial/

Read the article.

There was no one there in the Guard Booth near the steps. She was found face down, having bled out. Who knows how long she was lying there?

Columbia and Barnard and the city will likely be sued by the girl’s parents. She had every right to expect that campus security would be at that post at Morningside Park.

Columbia used hace tight security on campus but loosened up a bit due to social justice concerns that quite clearly cost someone their lives.

With that said, stop and frisk want needed. A security guard should be required to be at relevant posts at all times. When I was a student at Columbia I have seen that post empty on more than one incident.

Obviously immediately the city has to increase patrols in the area as well. I don’t support stopping and frisking people doing nothing. How we they should stop and ID randomly all types of people. That way people with no business in the area are basically kept out.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:04 AM
 
Location: NY
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Poor kid was either naive of her surroundings or like many outgoing people, beautiful and unafraid.

Or empowered by the "go girl" mentality, she was fearless in believing she could do whatever she wanted, whenever she wanted, because the current mindset encourages the perspective that to discuss taking precautions contributes to "blaming the victim."
Opinion:
Well done.
I'd rather be warned to never enter the Bears den for fear of being eaten than to be told how cute and cuddly they are.
The Good lord made the night for sleeping. Evil in most instances,avoids the day for fear of exposure and only comes
out in the dark of night to wreak havoc.

RIP kid.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:14 AM
 
Location: NY
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You do have some very good points. On an ongoing basis the University is going to have to continue what it did to make the hill safe. They bought tenements and they bought SROs and moved the people out. They bought tenements that had been converted into NYCHA housing a few years ago. Now they are going to ultimately have to buy out Grant Houses and the Manhattanville projects. The neighborhood would be made so much better. Move all that ghetto out.
Opinion:
I have witnessed building after building purchased.
From brown stone to small structures. From apartment
building to parking garages. Columbia Expansion to
ultimately own the top of the hill goes back almost 100
years to create a private neighborhood for only the elite.
This was blocked for obvious reasons but under the
definitions of redevelopment is a perfectly legal alternative.
Gentrification under the disguise of continued education.
Education is a business and it too disdains poverty. For
where there is poverty there is crime. Where there is crime
there will be no students. Columbia has been moving the
ghetto out for years and will eventually be followed by the
closing off staircases.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.Retired View Post
Opinion:
Like tho old saying goes. All crap rolls down hill.
Campus and affluence perched on a hill overlooking poverty and garbage below.
Know the location very well. Walked those steps many a time dawn and dusk.
Took me about 10 to 20 minutes from bottom to top. Best be on your guard at all times.
Poor kid was either naive of her surroundings or like many outgoing people, beautiful and unafraid.
Stay within your comfort zone school kids. There's a reason why security guards and law enforcement
has been buzzing for years all over this so called quaint little neighborhood. It's for your protection.
R.I.P. Kid................
you have not been there, because if you had you would not be saying all that non-sense.
have you really been at the bottom of the park lately?
is not a dump with trash it is actually a very nice area. that area gentrified long time ago.

you would not get a house there for less than 3 million or rent a one bed for less than 2500.

grant houses are like 10 blocks away from where the crime occurred.

it took you 20 minute from the top to bottom? are you insane? that park is one city block wide.
it is actually 330 feet wide. how the hell took you 20 minutes to cross it?

Some old people just keep regurgitating things the saw in the 80s and pretend to be some kind of erudite.


you haven't been there in decades.


I would not blame her for having her guard down. that park was refurbished recently and has a new playground and all the grounds are nicely kept.
it dosent strike you as dangerous and is full of families with babies during the day, and even in the early night.


The NYPD dropped the ball in this case, plenty of people filled complains about this group of kids for more than a year and the police did nothing.
Thats why the police union chief is now attacking the victim, saying she was there to buy pot, with no evidence.
trowing a bucket of excrement on the victim will make the victim less likable and will lower the pressure on them.
this is how low this politicians are.

blame the hood, blame the victim, blame gentrification blame Obama if its needed be, but the true in the end is one.
that kid would be alive today if the police had done its job months ago.

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Old 12-18-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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you have not been there, because if you had you would not be saying all that non-sense.


The NYPD dropped the ball in this case, plenty of people filled complains about this group of kids for more than a year and the police did nothing.

Soft-on-crime Deblasio is tying up the hands of the NYPD. The NYPD have been neutered. You can dump water on cops now, and nothing happens. Jumping turnstyles, graffiti are all legal now. Closing Rikers is basically telling all the thugs its party time. Filthy streets and homeless everywhere.


The buck stops at that lousy bum Deblasio, but he's probably oversleeping now that he's not absent for his delusional presidential campaign.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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https://www.columbiaspectator.com/ne...ompting-trial/

Read the article.

There was no one there in the Guard Booth near the steps. She was found face down, having bled out. Who knows how long she was lying there?

Columbia and Barnard and the city will likely be sued by the girl’s parents. She had every right to expect that campus security would be at that post at Morningside Park.

Columbia used hace tight security on campus but loosened up a bit due to social justice concerns that quite clearly cost someone their lives.

With that said, stop and frisk want needed. A security guard should be required to be at relevant posts at all times. When I was a student at Columbia I have seen that post empty on more than one incident.

Obviously immediately the city has to increase patrols in the area as well. I don’t support stopping and frisking people doing nothing. How we they should stop and ID randomly all types of people. That way people with no business in the area are basically kept out.
you are just regurgitating fake news, the university clarified the guard was indeed in the cabin at the moment and he was the one who called 911.

https://twitter.com/Columbia/status/1205205550633492481
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Old 12-18-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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If cannabis was legal people wouldn't have to go buy weed in parks

I don't go to a park to buy beer, alcohol, or cigarettes

Just a thought.
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