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Well I feel like the bars are only there because of the crowds of drunk Yankee fans that support them. You're right that they're accessible regardless, but their presence is more of a unique situation.
And for bars, I wouldn't discount them as bars just for selling food, but I tend to think of places as bars if they make their money mostly by serving alcohol.
I guess I would consider anything up to the 170s and West of the Bronx River as the South Bronx.
If you know of any, I'd be happy to know for when the lockdown ends. I've been curious about this, but haven't been able to find many.
Yelp shows several when you put in bars and you can adjust the area that yelp shows up with. There’s 40-50 listings, but about maybe a dozen to a dozen and a half that roughly hits your asks. I’ve been to Bronx Draft House and the Lit Bar which really is a lot more bar than bookstore. I know there’s a beer garden, brewery, and distillery somewhere up there as well. Then there’s just bar and grills, taverns, and the like.
I understand Brooklyn being gentrified because it was next to manhattan.
But with all the nice areas in NYC you can get with those rental prices why would someone want to go to Mott Haven. The high rise towers popping up in Jamaica I think are better priced but even those prices are questionable because Jamaica is a far reach and despite the E/F being express those trains delay a lot.
A lot of The Bronx doesn't even have watering hole type of places, though. Kingsbridge and Woodlawn do but they're upscale for Bronx standards. I would be genuinely surprised if there were even 10 standalone bars in the entire South Bronx.
Edit: not counting the Yankee stadium area for obvious reasons
There are, not the Irish pub type or the Lily white type, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Ecuadorian and Mexicans for the most part. Some not fancy, some kinda tacky with blue neons and white plastic chairs, but that’s the demographics they cater to.
Also around the Yankees stadium there are a bunch, for the Baseball fans, sports bar type. Then you have Bronx Brewery in Port Morris, similar to a Queens/Brooklyn beer garden.
I understand Brooklyn being gentrified because it was next to manhattan.
But with all the nice areas in NYC you can get with those rental prices why would someone want to go to Mott Haven. The high rise towers popping up in Jamaica I think are better priced but even those prices are questionable because Jamaica is a far reach and despite the E/F being express those trains delay a lot.
Well here’s the thing, there was a time people didn’t understand North Brooklyn being gentrified... people kept saying how Bed-Stuy would never gentrify, how Crown Heights is too deep... now you have pockets of gentrification in Ocean Hill/Brownsville, and even all the way to Cortelyou Road.
Yelp shows several when you put in bars and you can adjust the area that yelp shows up with. There’s 40-50 listings, but about maybe a dozen to a dozen and a half that roughly hits your asks. I’ve been to Bronx Draft House and the Lit Bar which really is a lot more bar than bookstore. I know there’s a beer garden, brewery, and distillery somewhere up there as well. Then there’s just bar and grills, taverns, and the like.
Well it seems like nowadays in NYC, a watering hole, to be considered as such has to go by gentrified Brooklyn or Manhattan standards, and not be overly “ethnic”, otherwise not considered a real bar.
A place serving drinks is a watering hole, and that’s it.
Well it seems like nowadays in NYC, a watering hole, to be considered as such has to go by gentrified Brooklyn or Manhattan standards, and not be overly “ethnic”, otherwise not considered a real bar.
A place serving drinks is a watering hole, and that’s it.
That is definitely NOT what I was implying, I just meant that it has to feel like a bar. If it's mainly a restaurant but has a few bar stools, I personally wouldn't count that.
The clientele at many of the gentrified bars is often heavily nonwhite anyway. Luv Story in Bushwick for instance, is a 90% black crowd.
And a large chunk of those bars have a diverse crowd, with each one attracting a slightly different mix of people.
There are, not the Irish pub type or the Lily white type, Puerto Rican, Dominican, Ecuadorian and Mexicans for the most part. Some not fancy, some kinda tacky with blue neons and white plastic chairs, but that’s the demographics they cater to.
Also around the Yankees stadium there are a bunch, for the Baseball fans, sports bar type. Then you have Bronx Brewery in Port Morris, similar to a Queens/Brooklyn beer garden.
Yeah I know there are some of those but I still think you find more of those in Brooklyn and Queens than the Bronx.
I know there are a ton of places like that in Jackson Heights for instance, but the selection seems more sparse in The Bronx, at least the South Bronx.
One I went to a more "ethnic" bar/lounge in Bushwick, it was actually more expensive than the white bars in the area. Plus they pat people down before they come in which I'm personally not a fan of.
That is definitely NOT what I was implying, I just meant that it has to feel like a bar. If it's mainly a restaurant but has a few bar stools, I personally wouldn't count that.
The clientele at many of the gentrified bars is often heavily nonwhite anyway. Luv Story in Bushwick for instance, is a 90% black crowd.
And a large chunk of those bars have a diverse crowd, with each one attracting a slightly different mix of people.
When I said ethnic I meant more like fresh off the boat, and I agree many new gentrified bars have black patrons, most of them heavily American, the black bourgeoisie from Atlanta, Southern California, North Carolina, D.C, Michigan...
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