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hold up im confused. You lived in new york for 15 years and never seen times square
Don't be confused. As far as I know, it's not a requisite to visit Times Sq. or any other tourist trap if you're a native or have been living here for a while.
But 15 years though? like Damn u never was curious. lol. As someone who travels all over the city, it sounds extremely strange to me. I could see the statue of liberty, staten island ...etc But time square though?
Don't be confused. As far as I know, it's not a requisite to visit Times Sq. or any other tourist trap if you're a native or have been living here for a while.
It doesn't seem to me that stepping foot in any part of Times Square is equivalent to "visiting Times Square." If I meet my friends near Times Square for dinner, I do not call it "visiting Times Square." Did I go out to dinner with friends? Yes. Did I go to Times Square? Yes. Did I purposefully go to see a tourist area? Not really, but I did get out of the subway there and was walking around in the vicinity of one.
It seems hard for me to believe that anyone could live in NYC and not have at least been above ground in the most central part of Manhattan.
And don't try the "native" excuse when you're talking about the center of midtown! Yeah, it works on things like the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building and Harbor tours, but it doesn't work with a central part of town. Sorry.
It doesn't seem to me that stepping foot in any part of Times Square is equivalent to "visiting Times Square." If I meet my friends near Times Square for dinner, I do not call it "visiting Times Square." Did I go out to dinner with friends? Yes. Did I go to Times Square? Yes. Did I purposefully go to see a tourist area? Not really, but I did get out of the subway there and was walking around in the vicinity of one.
It seems hard for me to believe that anyone could live in NYC and not have at least been above ground in the most central part of Manhattan.
And don't try the "native" excuse when you're talking about the center of midtown! Yeah, it works on things like the Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building and Harbor tours, but it doesn't work with a central part of town. Sorry.
The person's tag is Infamous92, and he/she spoke of living in NYC all his/her life except 2 years somewhere else. I deduce that this person is 17 years old and pretty spent that time in eastern Queens beyond the reach of the subway.
So we're really only talking about a smaller number of years of being old enough to go around and check things out. I could definitely understand how a person in that situation, whose parents weren't particularly interested in dodging millions of tourists, would not have gone to Times Square.
I'm not sure it's the most central part of Manhattan either. A lot of jobs are on the east side, and a lot of suburbanites (and eastern Queens-ites) spend their time in the Village when they come to Manhattan.
The person's tag is Infamous92, and he/she spoke of living in NYC all his/her life except 2 years somewhere else. I deduce that this person is 17 years old and pretty spent that time in eastern Queens beyond the reach of the subway.
So we're really only talking about a smaller number of years of being old enough to go around and check things out. I could definitely understand how a person in that situation, whose parents weren't particularly interested in dodging millions of tourists, would not have gone to Times Square.
I'm not sure it's the most central part of Manhattan either. A lot of jobs are on the east side, and a lot of suburbanites (and eastern Queens-ites) spend their time in the Village when they come to Manhattan.
Well, sure, it makes complete sense if we are talking about a 17 year old.
But since that wasn't made explicit in his/her posts, I am getting from your last comment about Times Sq. not being the most central part of Manhattan that you think it's normal for others (adults) who have been living in NYC for 15 years never to have stepped foot in Times Square?
I guess an argument could be made for many areas to be the "most central" part of Manhattan...but I do think that a subway stop with 9 lines running through it that is more or less in the geographical center of Manhattan would be a top contender.
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Well, sure, it makes complete sense if we are talking about a 17 year old.
But since that wasn't made explicit in his/her posts, I am getting from your last comment about Times Sq. not being the most central part of Manhattan that you think it's normal for others (adults) who have been living in NYC for 15 years never to have stepped food in Times Square?
I guess an argument could be made for many areas to be the "most central" part of Manhattan...but I do think that a subway stop with 9 lines running through it that is more or less in the geographical center of Manhattan would be a top contender.
The 9 subway lines make it a common place to change trains, but it doesn't necessarily mean those people are going there above ground.
Personally, I avoid the area but even so I've been there often enough. I figure most people would likely have been there at some point, for example for the theatre or to show visitors around. But it wouldn't shock me if someone said they hadn't been in 15 years, particularly because the place's reputation precedes it and it's a spot to avoid in many people's minds. I can't, for example, think of any of my friends who proposed dinner plans there. For some reason we seem to meet up in other areas.
The 9 subway lines make it a common place to change trains, but it doesn't necessarily mean those people are going there above ground.
Personally, I avoid the area but even so I've been there often enough. I figure most people would likely have been there at some point, for example for the theatre or to show visitors around. But it wouldn't shock me if someone said they hadn't been in 15 years, particularly because the place's reputation precedes it and it's a spot to avoid in many people's minds. I can't, for example, think of any of my friends who proposed dinner plans there. For some reason we seem to meet up in other areas.
I agree with you on all those points. But if you live in NYC and have friends and plans and places to go, in 15 years one of those trips will presumably take you above ground in Times Square. After re-reading your posts, maybe we do agree on this issue more than I originally thought.
I agree with you on all those points. But if you live in NYC and have friends and plans and places to go, in 15 years one of those trips will presumably take you above ground in Times Square. After re-reading your posts, maybe we do agree on this issue more than I originally thought.
I think we do agree for the most part. All I'm saying is that, to some extent, it depends on the circles you run with. There are people in NYC who don't have a ton of "friends and plans and places to go," and there are also plenty of people in the outer boros whose friends live in the same neighborhood. Those people are less likely to check out a wide variety of places around the city.
For example, I'm in your situation. I tend to meet up with a lot of people in all sorts of places, so I've been through there a few times this year. I also work in Midtown, and used to work very close to Times Square. But my uncle is in his 50's, he's lived in the same house in Bay Ridge his whole life, and I honestly can't recall the last time he left Bay Ridge except for family celebrations at someone else's house. All of his friends are there, he works there, and he recently told me he hadn't been to Manhattan in 10 years because it gives him a headache. I also have a cousin, about 30, who lives in Sheepshead Bay and works in Staten Island. He spends virtually all of his time in the southern half of Brooklyn or Staten Island. I've come across a lot of people in this situation. So I'm just saying it is possible, particularly for outer boro lifers, not to pass through a place like Times Square.
It's not a mass transit thing, it's a personality thing. People with cars and that attitude do the same thing. For example - thinking the drive from PA to Brooklyn and back is somehow longer than the reverse.
Arthur Avenue has AWESOME food but I also highly suggest you check out the Little Italy in Morris Park too. Its a lot nicer and there are some great bakeries and restaurants you might want to check out. Its also not too far away, trust me make the voyage to both Little Italys.
Its funny that no one knows there' two Little Italy's in the Bronx!
That's one of my favorite things about this city; so many different things to do and so many different places to go that you can grow up here and spend decades here without seeing everything. Like the two Little Italys in the Bronx.
What're the closest subway lines? Any recommendations for a first time visitor on a budget?
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