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Ithaca did have some compelling classical music culture IIRC, but I haven’t looked much into it as I figure it’s smaller than Buffalo, Rochester, etc and might not meet all of my needs. I could be wrong, though.
I like the Greek names, BTW! Is there a reason for that? Just curious.
As for your second post… well, if they live in NY they might feel more at ease because their rights are protected. There is absolutely no room for such ease in Oklahoma or other red (or even purple) states.
Ithaca did have some compelling classical music culture IIRC, but I haven’t looked much into it as I figure it’s smaller than Buffalo, Rochester, etc and might not meet all of my needs. I could be wrong, though.
I like the Greek names, BTW! Is there a reason for that? Just curious.
As for your second post… well, if they live in NY they might feel more at ease because their rights are protected. There is absolutely no room for such ease in Oklahoma or other red (or even purple) states.
As for Ithaca, while smaller, it would be a good fit in terms of feel and parts of the town of Ithaca, as well as the town of Lansing where they meet north/NE of the city of Ithaca is really the only truly suburban portion of the area. I'm thinking of the area that includes Cayuga Heights(village) and Northeast Ithaca(cdp) in the town of Ithaca next to the village of Lansing portion of the town of Lansing. The latter has the area mall and some big box shopping. Basically this area on each side of Route 13: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4811...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
As for your second post… well, if they live in NY they might feel more at ease because their rights are protected. There is absolutely no room for such ease in Oklahoma or other red (or even purple) states.[/quote]
To say much more on this will get the thread shut...so I will say this in the nicest way: Folks didn't have a good time at that barbecue.."because the rights of these gays are more protected in NY". They had a good time because any private opinions of this lifestyle were kept out of conversation..and on the host's part..no multi colored flags flying..no petitions to sign..no over the top/in your face displays of same sex affection. On both sides..just showing respect for your neighbors. ....what a concept....
Historically on average, Albany does have a lower snowfall total than Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse. It does get hit harder from Nor’easters, but doesn’t get the amount of Lake Effect snow from the Great Lakes like those three other cities/areas do. However, with at least the Buffalo and Syracuse areas, the snowfall varies, with portions directly along the snow bands south of Buffalo directly east/SE of Lake Erie and north of Syracuse directly east/SE of Lake Ontario getting the highest totals. Of course the mountains and higher elevations like Tug Hill east of Lake Ontario, the highlands/hills south of Syracuse and Rochester, etc. get more as well.
You are paranoid. No disrespect.
Despite what you see or hear, there won’t be any walking back on gay marriage, abortion or whatever.
It’s just not gonna happen. They may tighten the reigns on abortion regulations but stop believing the fear mongering cry babies. Abortion ain’t going nowhere. It would be political suicide.
Also, the tide is changing in NY. It may not be solidly blue in the near future. And btw, that is mostly due to NYC metro area population which outnumbers the rest of the state. I’ll believe it when it happens but the predictions are that NY will experience a flip from blue to red, possibly even at the Governor level. It won’t be the big red wave here but political pundits are claiming there will be many blue upsets come November.
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For what it's worth no matter how conservative Upstate NY outside of the immediate city propers being discussed may be, NY is still a blue state overall and will protect abortion, contraceptives, and same-sex marriage (and interracial marriage and integrated schools, if those decisions are also ultimately remanded to being state-specific decisions). This is why I don't really understand the OP's fears of NY's politics that much.
I live just south here in Pennsylvania. Our state is truly PURPLE. We voted for Trump (barely) in 2016 and Biden (barely) in 2020. Our gubernatorial race between a moderate Democrat (Shapiro) and a far-right "Big Lie" Trumper (Mastriano) is neck-and-neck right now, and if the latter becomes governor he may utilize our Republican-controlled state legislature to ban same-sex marriage; abortion; contraceptives; interracial marriage; and integrated schools in PA. As such I am researching possible relocation to Upstate NY and am lurking in this thread for that reason. Pittsburgh and Philadelphia would implode socioeconomically if that were to happen (some Pittsburgh tech firms and start-ups have already announced they'll leave PA if Mastriano is elected as our governor and tries to ban abortion and/or same-sex marriage in PA).
Liberals living in red areas of blue states need not worry about civil liberties. Liberals living in blue cities within purple or red states, as I do? Yes. We should be very worried.
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Tioga county is a conservative county..and guess what..we like it that way. Given that some of these posters put a premium on "blue" areas...you would find Ithaca in your comfort zone. And for what it's worth..I am a Libertarian. But have found the term.."liberal" attached to democrats somewhat of a miscue as most dems I know/have met want things , "their way or the highway"..actually just want things their way.
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ps: This may come as a shock to those seeking blue area refuge. Down the road from my farm is a woman who is lesbian (WHO CARES). I have worked on her tractor for her. Down the road in the other direction is a gay couple (WHO CARES). I was invited to a 4th barbecue.. I'd say most folks there were no doubt Republicans. You don't have to have the same views on everything, just to get along as neighbors. In the past..had 2 black families in my area( gone-job tansfers)..again..did folks notice they were black?...obviously...and guess what (WHO CARED).
As for Ithaca, while smaller, it would be a good fit in terms of feel and parts of the town of Ithaca, as well as the town of Lansing where they meet north/NE of the city of Ithaca is really the only truly suburban portion of the area. I'm thinking of the area that includes Cayuga Heights(village) and Northeast Ithaca(cdp) in the town of Ithaca next to the village of Lansing portion of the town of Lansing. The latter has the area mall and some big box shopping. Basically this area on each side of Route 13: https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4811...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
As mentioned though, it isn't as affordable as the bigger areas, but it has had some steady population growth in recent years.
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