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Old 05-31-2022, 05:33 AM
 
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OP also needs to consider the brutal winters. Feet of snow, not inches.
I don’t get the scared of my rights stuff. It’s 2022. All of that is protected under federal law.
TX, OK, Carolinas, etc, are not gonna be going door to door and “rounding up the gays”.
TX is going purple, and most of the major cities and metro areas are beginning to lean blue which is one of the reasons it’s a hotspot for transplants. Might be best for the OP to reach out to an online lgbt forum/group to get more insight on locations.
Given what the OP is looking for, it makes sense even on the “rights”(and other)fronts. Snow gets removed in a timely manner up here and life goes on. Besides, winters aren’t like they used to be.

I also think people underestimate the cost of living for the cities/areas in those states compared to cities Upstate. Many actually have a similar to even higher cost of living due to demand. In turn, there will be more pressure on infrastructure, as operating on the cheap/affordable side can only last so long. Let alone the aspect of sprawl versus getting anywhere in the Upstate areas within 20 minutes or so(especially with current gas prices). So, just because it is the South doesn’t necessarily make it more affordable than places in Upstate(key word) NY.

This information helps to illustrate what I’m referring to, given that housing at roughly 30%, makes up the biggest portion of cost of living: https://www.nahb.org/-/media/NAHB/ne...nk-2022q1.xlsx (Housing By Affordability Rank(Syracuse looks to be lower than it should be): https://www.nahb.org/news-and-econom...ortunity-index )

https://www.nar.realtor/research-and...-affordability

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Old 05-31-2022, 06:15 AM
 
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OP, here is some information about the transit systems for some of the Upstate areas, Buffalo: https://www.nfta.com/

Rochester: https://myrts.com/

Central NY(Syracuse and Utica-Rome): https://www.centro.org/

Capital Region/District(Albany-Schenectady-Troy): https://www.cdta.org/
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Old 05-31-2022, 08:54 AM
 
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Also, this thread about rental/condo communities has some information that you may want to look over: https://www.city-data.com/forum/new-...pstate-ny.html
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Old 05-31-2022, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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A few general comments for your consideration.

Size-wise, Buffalo>Rochester>>Syracuse.

Buffalo is 2-1/2 hours away from Syracuse, and Rochester is right in the middle between them.

Buffalo has historically been the most urban of the three cities and was among the 10 largest cities in the US in the early 20th Century. It is the most "major league" of the 3 cities, still with NFL and NHL teams. Buffalo also has the busiest airport (about 2x the passengers of Tulsa or Rochester airports) with the most flights.

Music, arts, medical care, etc can be found in spades throughout NYS. There should be no issues wherever you choose. Each city has significant medical facilities. There are also large universities in each of the cities, including medical schools. Buffalo and Rochester have professional Symphony orchestras, and each city also has a music school (UB and Eastman) that also have regular performances.

NY cities, except for NYC, have not significantly grown comparable to Oklahoma or other sun belt areas in the last 50 years, so things like "new" or "fast growing" are on a much much smaller level here. There are some slightly growing areas, but no boom town areas like you may be familiar with. Places tend to be very very stable, however.

Climate is similar in each of the cities. But as has been noted by others, there can be very very significant local differences due to microclimates - for example some areas east and north of Lakes Erie and Ontario receive much much greater amounts of snowfall than other areas. Areas just north of Buffalo, for example, may get 50 inches a year while areas south may get 200 a year on average. This is similar to areas near Rochester and Syracuse, though totals may vary. Also, summertime temperatures near the lakes may average several degrees cooler than inland. Buffalo, for example, has never had a 100 degree day, but a few miles further east likely surpassed 100.

As I live in Buffalo, here are my top recommendations to you based on your criteria:

- City of Buffalo, North Park neighborhood. This would be the area adjacent to Hertel Avenue between Main Street and Delaware Avenue. Not a suburb, but may be considered similar to a "streetcar suburb" developed in the early 20th Century. Walkable, diverse, family friendly. The majority of the housing are doubles or multi-unit (usually of 2 or 3 bedroom each, and may include yards and off street parking), and some apartments. Very popular area with young couples, families, students, etc. Metro buses available, plus additional city services if special transit needs. Very safe, but a few regular street people here and there.

Still changing a lot, but here is a video from a few years ago: North Buffalo

- Town of Amherst, specifically the Village of Williamsville, or the Hamlets of Snyder or Eggertsville - basically the areas that follow along Main Street (Route 5). Amherst is the largest suburb, and is connected by public transportation to the city network including metro rail, that can take you to downtown Buffalo and the Medical Center. These areas also have walkable core areas, and Amherst has been called out many times as among the top 10 safest places in America. UB main campuses is also located in Amherst, so lots of artsy stuff. Big caveat is that most apartments may not be readily located within walking distance of public transportation.

As it says, video from 2018: Amherst named #1 place to live in NY State

- City of Buffalo, Elmwood Village neighborhood. The most walkable, most diverse, one of the most interesting neighborhoods. Will be pricier the North Park, and may not get as large an apartment. But it is in the city, and has everything that a walkable city neighborhood should be. Pride parade follows Elmwood Avenue toward Allentown (Allentown is the tradition LGBT community, just south of the Elmwood Village neighborhood). Slightly more petty crime here, harder to find parking, etc. Generally its the kind of place that on first visit you want to live there.

A little old and hokey, but here is a video. Elmwood Village - We are NY

A couple of other places to consider:
- Village of Kenmore - immediately north of Buffalo, very walkable downtown area, access to Metro Bus routes to downtown Buffalo and crosstown.
- City of Buffalo - North Delaware/Black Rock - basically the section of Elmwood between North Park and Elmwood Village - all the bus connectivity, many new apartments converted from former industrial, close to walkable areas like Amherst Street, slightly "better" area than working class Black Rock neighborhood.
- City of Tonawanda/City of North Tonawanda - neat suburban area near the canal, access to metro bus to downtown Buffalo, some reputation issue as being "too white" and all that goes along with that

I won't point to other suburban areas as transportation is your key, but generally the north town areas are fairly well connected to the rest of the city, and offer a good degree of safety and walkability.

A good video overview of Buffalo, a few years old now, as things are still changing for the better, but it capture the spirit of the place.
Buffalo: America's Best Designed City

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Old 05-31-2022, 03:28 PM
 
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^Just to add in terms of a symphony/orchestra, Syracuse has this company: Home - Symphoria and another orchestra with a mix of pro and amateur musicians: https://www.onondagaorchestra.org/
as well as this music school at Syracuse University: https://vpa.syr.edu/academics/music/

Albany also has a symphony: https://www.albanysymphony.com/
as does Schenectady: https://schenectadysymphony.com/

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Old 05-31-2022, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma (unfortunately)
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Thank you for the information, all!

RocketSci, were you the one in my MA topic recommending Buffalo? Thank you for coming to this topic and giving more detailed info. =) Everything helps!

According to the transit site linked to for Rochester, it doesn't seem like Brighton is included. That is a big shame. On the map Brighton is very close to the city. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I know that cities also offer transportation for those who are disabled. I've never done that, so I don't know the particulars of that.
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Old 05-31-2022, 05:56 PM
 
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Thank you for the information, all!

RocketSci, were you the one in my MA topic recommending Buffalo? Thank you for coming to this topic and giving more detailed info. =) Everything helps!

According to the transit site linked to for Rochester, it doesn't seem like Brighton is included. That is a big shame. On the map Brighton is very close to the city. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I know that cities also offer transportation for those who are disabled. I've never done that, so I don't know the particulars of that.
This is a route that goes through Brighton via Monroe Avenue: https://www.myrts.com/Portals/0/Sche...=1647008323869

Another route that goes into Brighton via South Clinton Street: https://www.myrts.com/Portals/0/Sche...=1647008295616

Another route that goes into the town via South Avenue/East Henrietta Road: https://www.myrts.com/Portals/0/Sche...=1647008261114

Another route that goes through Brighton and can take you to big box shopping in Henrietta: https://www.myrts.com/Portals/0/Sche...=1647008211545

So, I hope this helps in terms of where to look within Brighton.
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:03 PM
 
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Thank you for the information, all!

RocketSci, were you the one in my MA topic recommending Buffalo? Thank you for coming to this topic and giving more detailed info. =) Everything helps!

According to the transit site linked to for Rochester, it doesn't seem like Brighton is included. That is a big shame. On the map Brighton is very close to the city. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I know that cities also offer transportation for those who are disabled. I've never done that, so I don't know the particulars of that.
Don't forget that Rochester has the most dynamic economy and has grown every census that I can remember, rivaling Buffalo as the major city upstate. They wouldn't have the sports teams without Rochester. Not starting a fight, just inserting some left out info.

Rochester Transit will pick you up at your door if you are disabled
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Old 05-31-2022, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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Thank you for the information, all!

RocketSci, were you the one in my MA topic recommending Buffalo? Thank you for coming to this topic and giving more detailed info. =) Everything helps!

According to the transit site linked to for Rochester, it doesn't seem like Brighton is included. That is a big shame. On the map Brighton is very close to the city. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I know that cities also offer transportation for those who are disabled. I've never done that, so I don't know the particulars of that.
Yes, that was me. I think any of the major cities would do well, I just know the most about my own city. FYI one of my curling team members moved here from Oklahoma, so you wouldn't be the first moving from OK to NY if you choose to. I have been to Oklahoma a few times to visit my wife's family in Enid, and a former employer's plant in Broken Arrow.

Good luck on your search. Note that there are large call centers located in the Buffalo area (like Geico in Amherst) that are always looking for good people, and that type of job may be something suitable for your current skills and abilities, and also many do offer a career track.

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Old 06-01-2022, 08:36 AM
 
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Here is a segment about the Syracuse area transit system, CENTRO and its Call-A-Bus transportation option.

Centro 'Call-A-Bus' service bringing specialty transit to Syracuse: https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/ce...it-to-syracuse

Also, if you are interested in the Syracuse area, Spectrum and Rapid Response Monitoring are a couple of customer service/call center locations.

I will also say that villages such as Liverpool, Fayetteville(which has this on its edge: https://corcompanies.com/property/to...yetteville-ny/ ), North Syracuse(plenty of big box shopping to the north and some to the south), Baldwinsville(plenty of big box shopping to the east on Route 31) and even the southern portion of Solvay(around Westvale Plaza only due to affordable apartments and its location in between Downtown Syracuse and big box shopping in Fairmount/Camillus to the west), are some to consider.

Even within the city, Eastwood(think streetcar suburban) and the vast majority of the East Side(inc. the Westcott/University/University Hill area) would work as well. Particularly the East Side(south of East Genesee Street/around Salt Springs Road) due to proximity to the colleges/universities/hospitals, it is generally middle class and quite diverse. Both also puts you close to big box shopping in DeWitt along Erie Boulevard East and even a gigantic Wegmans on East Genesee Street(Fayetteville is actually just a little bit further east) or in the case of Eastwood, the James Street/East Syracuse Wegmans location.

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