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Old 11-17-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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People actually calculate how much electricity an appliance will use?
Everyone does, of course. It is a fairly simple calculation for anyone who passed high school physics. No calculus required.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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A sampling:
1) You started a thread because you were upset that your mother was "mean" to you on multiple occasions and getting in your way in the kitchen when you were trying to prepare food for your grandmother.
2) You started a thread because you were upset last Christmas when your grandparents (most specifically your soon-to-die grandfather) apparently forgot to give you a Christmas gift though they may have meant the food gift that was sent to your parents to be for you, too – but you didn't know as they didn't say anything and your name was not on it.
3) You started a thread because you were unhappy with an 11-year-old male relative who you regarded as a "know-it-all" questioning your ability to fix a computer, etc., and generally being a jerky kid.

Here's what I think:
In all of your threads, I see nothing about a personal life – school, work, friends, interests – it's all about this role that you have seemingly taken on as family caretaker. I didn't see evidence that the role has been forced upon you. I think your irritation in the latest case and probably some of the others cited is because you do not feel personally rewarded for your "sacrifices." Try not to read this as a criticism – I would ask you to consider just why these things are bugging you so much and perhaps that the answer lies within yourself. What is keeping you there? What are you doing for yourself beyond caregiving? While I would certainly applaud helping grandma, I also wonder you are insulating yourself from having to get out in the wider world with these "responsibilities." You may have resentments you are not really admitting to yourself that you are cloaking in irritation with others – whom you feel are not properly seeing you as the competent adult that you wish to be regarded.

Just give it some thought.
You've got far more patience than I do when it comes to how people conduct themselves.

The OP has a pattern of being butt hurt, frankly. Not to sugar coat here. One of the perpetual victims of life. Some people get a certain sense of self-importance through constantly being somehow slighted. I'm not insulting them personally I'm merely labeling the actions here.

I've seen another poster here that starts threads and they all come from a place of people, mostly men, slighting her, they've all been that way, I didn't have to even research it, they just came up enough to where you saw the pattern.

When I see those kinds of posters I just put them on mental block to which this one is going to get added to as well.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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Everyone does, of course. It is a fairly simple calculation for anyone who passed high school physics. No calculus required.
No, sorry, but not "EVERYONE" does. I don't. If I want an electric appliance, I know right off the bat that it is probably not larger than 1500 watt. Very few 110V household circuits are protected by a larger than 20 amp circuit breaker or fuse. Most are 15 amp.
Even the largest electric heaters are only 1500 watt.
I do not bother to read the tag or the manufacturer's data plate. IMO, the only time that information is important is if I am specing a whole-house generator, and need to know the total load (including starting current) of what I desire the genset to operate.
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:35 PM
 
Location: London U.K.
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You might be a little too touchy.

You think?
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Old 11-17-2016, 01:56 PM
 
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Everyone does, of course. It is a fairly simple calculation for anyone who passed high school physics. No calculus required.
I must not be everyone.

1) there's typically, as required by law, a sticker with the information.
2) who cares, if you like it and it's more practical for your needs just go for it.
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Old 11-17-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: East TN
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Who the hell checks how much electricity an appliance uses? The big ones have a yellow tag with the annual estimated cost. Smaller ones, get what you need. I've never tried to figure out how electricity is consumed. It's a waste of time.
I'm a woman, and a Certified Energy Manager. I spent pretty much my entire 25 year career telling people how much an appliance (or lighting, water heaters, HVAC systems, pool filters, commercial lighting, refrigeration systems, etc.) cost to operate. Obviously it wasn't a waste of time since everyone from homeowners to business owners and government entities kept asking about it. They need to know which is more cost effective solution for their needs, what the payback time is, what the lifecycle cost is, what the ROI is, whether they are actually getting the most efficient equipment available, and what other collateral benefits might accrue from the purchase. They need to know if there are rebates or tax credits available for this particular application, and whether there are sources of funding or financing available to help them with the purchase cost.

To the OP, there are so many other things in life to worry about. Let it go. Your relative meant no offense I'm sure. To be honest, even a female might have made the same remark. I dealt with so many dopes in my line of work, who were very surprised when the energy specialist that showed up happened to be a woman. If he was in person when he said it, you could have made it clear that you knew the facts. Since it was written, and 5 days ago at that, it will just make you look silly to be all up in his grill over dumb advice.
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Old 11-17-2016, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Central IL
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Did the OP ever come back with more information?

Because it appears the uncle knew her better than she knows herself - she was not even considering checking on the efficiency of the appliance and she never indicated that she knew how to do the calculation or that if she didn't know the formula that she could do it once she looked it up.

She was ticked off in a purely hypothetical way since apparently she DIDN'T know how to do it but still wanted credit from her uncle. Ridiculous...save righteous indignation for when you can back yourself up.
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Old 11-17-2016, 05:16 PM
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Location: Upstairs closet
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When I was younger, before caller ID, we would spend HOURS on the phone, calling people and posing as reps from the power company.

We would then ask some appliance related questions and ending by asking if the person's refrigerator was running.

When they said "Yes," we would scream,"Well, you better go catch it!" And slam the phone down.

That is the extent of my knowledge on how much electricity an appliance uses.
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Old 11-17-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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I see nothing wrong with his suggestion. You sound like a typical Hillary loving feminist. You can thank him for his concern. Btw, my wife would have no idea nor would she care if an appliance is energy efficient. I would think most women are the same. I am quite sure that I am right.
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Old 11-17-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Traveling
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I see nothing wrong with his suggestion. You sound like a typical Hillary loving feminist. You can thank him for his concern. Btw, my wife would have no idea nor would she care if an appliance is energy efficient. I would think most women are the same. I am quite sure that I am right.
Depends on if they had brothers. Coming from a family of 9, 5 boys & 4 girls, we all had such diverse interests that we each brought to the table. So yes, electricity issues were discussed.
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