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I would remind the op that sometimes what you see or what you project onto a married family men may not be what is really happening. many men have a façade of being happily married, while in fact it's only the wife that's "married" he continues to do his own thing outside of marriage. many men who are happily married are abusers. you shouldn't assume all married family types are living the dream.
I would remind the op that sometimes what you see or what you project onto a married family men may not be what is really happening. many men have a façade of being happily married, while in fact it's only the wife that's "married" he continues to do his own thing outside of marriage. many men who are happily married are abusers. you shouldn't assume all married family types are living the dream.
Truer words were never spoken! I'm suspicious of all so-called "family men". I believe they're all liars - at the least. And, many are worse than that.
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I was judgy and the question was missing I agree, was just noting that married men with families tend to be more stable.
That was probably the overriding point. That men who are married with kids tend to be more stable.....
Please, the only people who know how stable a marriage is are the two people in the marriage.
Considering the divorce rate, people getting married or who are married isn't really making them stable.
How do you feel about men who just walk out on the family and leave the wife and kids for another woman, than try to get out of child support? I don't think too much of them.
What business is it of yours whether someone gets married or not or doesn't want kids. I say good for them, they know it's something they don't want, nothing worse than bringng a child into the world who isn't wanted.
The approx., 50% divorce rate for first marriages (higher percentages for the second and third ones) which the woman is the one filing 75% plus percent of them.
No thanks.
Yeah Chip and Joanna Gaines current marriage and family remain to be seen - I do wish them all the best in staying that way.
It would be interesting to know WHY women tend to file for divorce more - men cheating? DV?
The OP has made an observation not based in fact. Not everything is how it seems. Plenty of people who seem happy and have it together don't. There are countless instances where middle class to wealthy, suburban "family men" are actually abusers, and no one outside the family saw it coming.
Chow is pretty smart, so I'm sure he didn't mean "all married men", just the ones who truly are family men.
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It would be interesting to know WHY women tend to file for divorce more - men cheating? DV?
Both of those reasons among others for sure... but answer me this:
Women have great intuition and character-reading right? It's what steers them away from the "creepers" and undesirable men. Questionable men, boring men, unassertive men, "nice guys," etc. They just *KNOW* that person isn't *good.* Without a DOUBT, they somehow know their character at a glance or a first date.
Yet they eagerly jump on men who commit domestic violence, cheat, abuse, etc. Why?
I know what the "don't blame the victim" answer to that is; he was charming when she met him, he was nice (WHAT?), he swept her off her feet, she had NO IDEA he was a monster. Blah blah.
Where was her intuition there? Did it fail her or are women just attracted to bad men?
Women SHOULD divorce bad men, but perhaps they shouldn't have chosen them in the first place.
Both of those reasons among others for sure... but answer me this:
Women have great intuition and character-reading right? It's what steers them away from the "creepers" and undesirable men. Questionable men, boring men, unassertive men, "nice guys," etc. They just *KNOW* that person isn't *good.* Without a DOUBT, they somehow know their character at a glance or a first date.
Yet they eagerly jump on men who commit domestic violence, cheat, abuse, etc. Why?
I know what the "don't blame the victim" answer to that is; he was charming when she met him, he was nice (WHAT?), he swept her off her feet, she had NO IDEA he was a monster. Blah blah.
Where was her intuition there? Did it fail her or are women just attracted to bad men?
Women SHOULD divorce bad men, but perhaps they shouldn't have chosen them in the first place.
Look into the psychology behind abusers and their victims. Not everyone who is abusive is abusive from the beginning of the relationship, and DV comes in many forms. It's not simple.
You make a lot of assumptions and generalizations, quite ridiculous ones. You also seem to ignore the actual, bigger issue - that violence against women is a big problem.
many men who abuse consider themselves to be in a what they consider to be a "happy" marriage. it's normal for them, if not they would stop. I would not consider the marriage to be happy by any standard.
I would remind the op that sometimes what you see or what you project onto a married family men may not be what is really happening. many men have a façade of being happily married, while in fact it's only the wife that's "married" he continues to do his own thing outside of marriage. many men who are happily married are abusers. you shouldn't assume all married family types are living the dream.
I didn't realize you posted nearly the same thing that I did after you. It's good to see someone else thought of exactly what I did, though.
I wish DV was easy to explain away and is as black and white as some people seem to think, but it isn't. I have worked closely with social workers and advocates of victims of crime and have seen my share of awful and tragic DV situations play out in the courts. It's too complicated to even describe to people who have no idea and this is not the proper thread to delve into it. I know this is sort of off-topic, or at least a topic sort of within the topic of the thread to be aware of, but it's a good point to bring up and just remind people that not everything is as it seems.
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It's good to see someone else thought of exactly what I did, though. 
