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Technically, factually, officially, historically, culturally and demographically, it's a southern state. Not to mention in its heart and at its roots. It's well south of the Mason Dixon Line, folks drink their tea cold and sweetened, and NC resentfully seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy.
It's a Mid-Atlantic state to the ignorant. (That's not always an insult. Look up the definition.)
Some folks (usually those who say things like, "That's my truth,"), think its a Southeastern state due, again, to ignorance, but also because of all the rich Floridians and Atlantans with vacation homes here that have turned certain areas of the state into seasonal playgrounds while they remain ghost towns the rest of the year with understandably bitter locals.
As far as being a coastal state, that shouldn't really need any clarification.
Technically, factually, officially, historically, culturally and demographically, it's a southern state. Not to mention in its heart and at its roots. It's well south of the Mason Dixon Line, folks drink their tea cold and sweetened, and NC resentfully seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy.
It's a Mid-Atlantic state to the ignorant. (That's not always an insult. Look up the definition.)
Some folks (usually those who say things like, "That's my truth,"), think its a Southeastern state due, again, to ignorance, but also because of all the rich Floridians and Atlantans with vacation homes here that have turned certain areas of the state into seasonal playgrounds while they remain ghost towns the rest of the year with understandably bitter locals.
As far as being a coastal state, that shouldn't really need any clarification.
How do you differentiate between "southern" and "southeastern"? To me, NC is "southern" culturally speaking, and its obviously in the south geographically, but southeast is a region of the south. Thus NC is both southern and southeastern, but they are describing 2 different things and aren't mutually exclusive.
Technically, factually, officially, historically, culturally and demographically, it's a southern state. Not to mention in its heart and at its roots. It's well south of the Mason Dixon Line, folks drink their tea cold and sweetened, and NC resentfully seceded from the Union and joined the Confederacy.
It's a Mid-Atlantic state to the ignorant. (That's not always an insult. Look up the definition.)
Some folks (usually those who say things like, "That's my truth,"), think its a Southeastern state due, again, to ignorance, but also because of all the rich Floridians and Atlantans with vacation homes here that have turned certain areas of the state into seasonal playgrounds while they remain ghost towns the rest of the year with understandably bitter locals.
As far as being a coastal state, that shouldn't really need any clarification.
WNC is definitely not southern in the same sense as AL, MS, GA, TN, or SC (latter 3 being considered southeastern) mainly for the reason you stated - influx of northerners and Floridians who have moved here.
WNC is definitely not southern in the same sense as AL, MS, GA, TN, or SC (latter 3 being considered southeastern) mainly for the reason you stated - influx of northerners and Floridians who have moved here.
What I'm talking about is the original status of the state. (What I said about the Mason Dixon Line and begrudgingly joining the Confederacy are two main points. Historically, NC is definitely considered a southern state.) There is no "in the same sense as" because the southernness in every southern state varies.
Every southern state has an influx of people from many different states (not just northern) as well as other countries at this point. That influences the culture they move into. The very area you advised me on is a good example of that. We'll just have to differ in our opinions. But I know you'd have a very difficult time even trying to tell folks in TN that they're a southeastern state.
How do you differentiate between "southern" and "southeastern"? To me, NC is "southern" culturally speaking, and its obviously in the south geographically, but southeast is a region of the south. Thus NC is both southern and southeastern, but they are describing 2 different things and aren't mutually exclusive.
Being southern is a cultural way of speaking and living, but that varies in every southern state. Granted, it's more difficult to define today because of the rate of people moving from state to state and the influx of foreign immigration around the world. So, when I speak about being southern, I'm speaking of historical origins mostly; hence being considerably south of the Mason Dixon Line and begrudgingly joining the Confederacy.
Being southern is a cultural way of speaking and living, but that varies in every southern state. Granted, it's more difficult to define today because of the rate of people moving from state to state and the influx of foreign immigration around the world. So, when I speak about being southern, I'm speaking of historical origins mostly; hence being considerably south of the Mason Dixon Line and begrudgingly joining the Confederacy.
Thanks, I get that, but what is the difference between southern and southeastern, in your mind? Why do you think its ignorant say NC is in the "Southeast"?
Yes, NC is a southern state and so is VA. Technically so is MD and therefore Washington DC since it's surrounded by MD and VA. I think a lot of people across the country exclude MD though because they don't like the idea of DC being part of the south. I've always thought of Mid-Atlantic as a subset of the northeast made up of NY, NJ, PA & DE. Basically the north without New England. But, this really all boils down to if someone is talking about culture or geography.
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