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Old 11-15-2007, 10:54 AM
 
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You see more sensational reporting about animal abuse because the animal has no rights to legal confidentiality. Abused children and women have those rights. Most abused males (includes male children) tend to hide the abuse more than females.

Why post about this and not about abuse of humans around the world? As I read the posting, it seems SWB feels that these abuses are more prevalent in NEPA than in surrounding areas. Personally, I find it a horrific thing no matter where it happens. If you have a person or a group of people who have the capacity to torture a defenseless animal, they will, at some point, move on to doing the same thing to a human being who is less able to defend themselves. We have more control over what goes on in our own backyards rather than fighting for all the causes around the world. If we start in our own backyards, perhaps it will send a message that will have far reaching effects. We can't change other cultures, be we should damn well have a right to impact the quality of life where we live.

One sociopath is dangerous. A group of people with sociopathic tendencies can create a terror that goes beyond words. Most people can't fathom how these things can happen because most people don't think and process the way these people do. The laws need to be harsh. The judicial system needs to work swiftly.

Are there Satanic cults in the area? Does the Constitution protect them as a religion? That probably not for discussion here, but think about it.

I don't even understand hunters, so I'm no help.

 
Old 11-15-2007, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Pittston, PA
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I agree. It's pretty cowardly to abuse a helpless animal. It makes no sense. I would do those scumbags what they did to those dogs.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 11:50 AM
 
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What makes one life worth more then another? In Gods eyes, all his creatures are created equal.
If you were on a sinking boat and could only save a dog or child, it would be a random choice, because each life is equal? You can't truly believe that?

Abuses against animals do not happen more frequently here than anywhere else.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 01:07 PM
 
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LVN - I don't understand your logic. This was not a report of child abuse. People who see this as a potential for more extreme acts of savagery need to address it for what it is. There will always be horrible abuses in society. Sadly, that seems to be the nature of some humans. To say that this wasn't a child doesn't diminish the cowardly, savage action.

No matter what happens in life there will always be a comparison. There will always be something better or worse than what we face at any give moment in life. To say it wasn't a child doesn't make it less horrible. Next time, it may be a child or a defenseless elderly person. The person or persons who did it should be held accountable....now!
 
Old 11-15-2007, 02:08 PM
 
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LVN - I don't understand your logic.
Because it is the first time I saw SWB post a news report that shows how horrible human nature can be. It made me wonder why he decided this deserved more "press" in the form of posting here than the other bad crap that happens in this area on a daily basis. Is that really so hard to understand?
I have long felt that things like this get more press than atrocities against kids or women. This story even made national news, why is that? I just don't get it and was just trying to figure out why.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I think Lehigh Valley Native merely wants to remind us that human life is still more sacred than animal life, which I agree with. I completely agree with his logic. However, this particular story struck me as one of the most perverse cases of animal cruelty I've ever heard, as not only were the puppies killed or beaten, but they were also skinned and mutilated beyond recognition. I know there's not a whole heck of a lot to do in Eaton Township, but for God's sake I'm sure there's more constructive things to do than flaying animals! If they want to do something positive for the community, then why don't they join the Sierra Club and fight against the threat of a new Wal-Mart Supercenter ravaging Tunkhannock's downtown?

I suppose I simply try to not focus as much on child abuse since one of my siblings was the victim of sexual assault as a child as well. It's easier to not pay much attention to stories like that which might stir up some unwelcomed memories.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 04:51 PM
 
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LVN - Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I guess I think we need to be equally vigilant about any sort of abuse.

I worked with abused children for many years. I found a county system that was not functioning in the best interest of the children. When a disclosure was made by a child, there was often not enough proof to proceed with investigation. We had to be so careful that we didn't put the child in worse danger. I left a piece of my heart and soul at work every day for a long time.

I stand by my point that someone who is capable of doing this to an animal is going to escalate to human victims. Better to catch them and prosecute to the fullest extent before they go further.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 05:38 PM
 
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LVN - Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. I guess I think we need to be equally vigilant about any sort of abuse.

I worked with abused children for many years. I found a county system that was not functioning in the best interest of the children. When a disclosure was made by a child, there was often not enough proof to proceed with investigation. We had to be so careful that we didn't put the child in worse danger. I left a piece of my heart and soul at work every day for a long time.

I stand by my point that someone who is capable of doing this to an animal is going to escalate to human victims. Better to catch them and prosecute to the fullest extent before they go further.
I really didn't mean to open a can of worms. I really was just honestly trying to get a grip on the OP's thinking. As I have said before, I think animal abuse has way too much press in comparison to other things mentioned. It is my perception and it may not be an accurate one. So I was just trying to figure it out.

Animal abuse is a "gateway" to other types of abuse, without a doubt. But I think my pet peeve if I self-reflect, is the money groups like PETA raise and the celebs that support them that bothers me. I mean honestly, is raising animals for fur or overcrowded chickens a bigger issue than a 6 year old starring in a porn?

Although I need to stop, because I have got this way off topic. For what it is worth, I think you should be saluted for what you do. Thank you!
 
Old 11-16-2007, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Ashley
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Eventually the SOB's that did this to these poor animals will get their day one way or another. This reminds me of a story about 4 years back where I think it was around 40 cats were found near Glen Lyon and they were hung, skinned, and mutilated. Well, a few months later, a young man was killed in the same area. I later found out that this person worked for the same company as me (different shift) and he was the one who performed the hanice act on this cats. I actually laughed and said "Good for him. He deserved it". So, hopefully this person will get his/her day soon.
 
Old 11-16-2007, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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It's happened AGAIN!!! Two more dogs were found mutilated in Lackawanna County, near Carbondale. I hope all of the media attention given to this story hasn't resulted in copycats. This is disgusting!
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