Ohio's November Unemployment Rate (Cleveland, Florida: moving, top, winter)

[Cleveland_Collector]

Thankfully, I didn't go to school where you did. My school taught me that relativity means something. For instance, the unemployment rate for Ohio in March was about 7.5%. In August, it's now 6.8%.

No matter, TX is basically a friggin joke. Redneck/wannabe central whose radicals preach secession while they rely so much on the federal goverment for just about everything from farm subsidies to petro grants to military bases.

Lesson of the day: It's "boon" not "boom," you yutz.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Prairieparson

You can post all the stuff you want but if you go to the official US Govt. Bureau of Labor Statistics, that is the latest posed, it clearly says: March Employment 5,367,000. August Employment 5,338,000. Now I don't know where you went to school, but that's 29,000 fewer people employed. its at: bls.gov/eag.oh.htm. I'd put the www in there but they don't like us to post links. Your problems are your problems. I really don't care much. I never liked Ohio anyhow, but I'm just trying to point out that a drop of 29,000 is not a boom and CNBC is blowing smoke to make OBAMA look good.

And once again, "Employment" is not jobs. They are not the same thing.

Sent my absentee ballot in for Obama the other day. Enjoy four more years!

[Natural510]

I won't even bash Texas, because they have good people in Texas. But I am guessing that guy voted for Rick Perry.

[Cleveland_Collector]

They do, but they're in the minority.

BTW - The majority of the TX electorate voted for Perry. If that doesn't explain it, I don't know what does.

[WRosado]

Originally Posted by Prairieparson

You can post all the stuff you want but if you go to the official US Govt. Bureau of Labor Statistics, that is the latest posed, it clearly says: March Employment 5,367,000. August Employment 5,338,000. Now I don't know where you went to school, but that's 29,000 fewer people employed. its at: bls.gov/eag.oh.htm. I'd put the www in there but they don't like us to post links. Your problems are your problems. I really don't care much. I never liked Ohio anyhow, but I'm just trying to point out that a drop of 29,000 is not a boom and CNBC is blowing smoke to make OBAMA look good.

You can post links as long as they are not a competing site/forum.

And you can try to twist the numbers all you want, but that is what they are, and you're not getting it. The numbers we are talking about are from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Our problems? I am doing just fine. I left the South because the job market was horrible down there. I am actually around real cities again. Are we suppose to care if you like Ohio? We never forced you to come into the Ohio forum and post in an Ohio thread. I can honestly say I have never checked the Texas forum because I have no desire or interest in Texas. I have been to Houston and Dallas and I thought they were huge jokes. Lubbock, Texas? The Panhandle of Texas at least has better scenery than Kansas. Yeah, to say I don't like Texas is putting it lightly.

In the past few weeks the Ohio forum has been inundated with BS political threads. Yes, we know Ohio will be one of the few, if not THE state to chose the next president. But as far as this thread goes, I don't give a damn what your opinion is on Obama. So if you so chose to talk about how much you hate Obama, there is a political forum for that. Now go fetch those tumbleweeds and the loose cattle!

These are the numbers, as of today, October 18, 2012:

Unemployment rate:

March August
7.5 (P) 7.2

Total Non-Farm Employment:

March August
5,141.3 (P) 5,187.6

That is the time frame you were talking about in your first post here... 6 months from March/August.

Ohio Economy at a Glance

[unusualfire]

7% now.

ODJFS - News & Events - Press Releases

[ZnGuy]

Originally Posted by Cleveland_Collector

Thankfully, I didn't go to school where you did. My school taught me that relativity means something. For instance, the unemployment rate for Ohio in March was about 7.5%. In August, it's now 6.8%.

No matter, TX is basically a friggin joke. Redneck/wannabe central whose radicals preach secession while they rely so much on the federal goverment for just about everything from farm subsidies to petro grants to military bases.

Lesson of the day: It's "boon" not "boom," you yutz.

If Ohio is doing so well economically why is it almost last (#50) in personal income growth? Looks like Texas is doing pretty darn well at #1 in income growth

http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/bl...al-income.html

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

If Ohio is doing so well economically why is it almost last (#50) in personal income growth? Looks like Texas is doing pretty darn well at #1 in income growth

Ohio near bottom in personal income growth - Dayton Business Journal

Income growth has multiple factors that come into play. For example, if the cost of living is rising, wages tend to rise to match it. Ohio's cost of living has remained fairly steady for some time now and is rather low overall. Also, it depends what kind of jobs are being created. Ohio needs more jobs within high-paying fields, such as tech, health, etc.

But the fact is that there probably isn't a single metro or state in the nation that has seen income growth the past decade because of the double recessions. If there's any recovery going on, it's been only within the last few years.

In any case, income growth is hardly the only measure of economic strength, so it's silly to suggest it alone means that the economy is not in recovery.

[WRosado]

Originally Posted by ZnGuy

If Ohio is doing so well economically why is it almost last (#50) in personal income growth? Looks like Texas is doing pretty darn well at #1 in income growth

Ohio near bottom in personal income growth - Dayton Business Journal

Where are you from? Maybe we could compare economic numbers. I see you posting all the time in Ohio, but yet never claim where you are from. Former Ohioan who comes back in to bash the place? Please, don't tell me it's the South...

Anyway, for more comparative sake, lets look at the year-over-year growth rates (% wise) for each month. Ohio has proven itself in more ways then one. Some posters on here look at one or two stats and think that describes the entire picture.

Numbers are as follows: April, May, June, July, August, and September. These are the 12-month percentage changes:

Ohio:

1.0 1.5 2.0 2.0 2.0 (P) 1.7

Pennsylvania:

0.6 0.5 0.3 0.4 0.4 (P) 0.7

North Carolina (really hurting):

0.7 0.5 0.7 0.8 0.7 (P) 0.8

Texas:

2.2 2.3 2.2 2.1 2.4 (P) 2.5

Tennessee:

1.7 1.5 1.6 1.2 0.9 (P) 0.8

Illinois:

0.4 0.4 0.4 0.5 0.7 (P) 0.9

South Carolina:

0.8 1.2 1.1 0.2 0.8 (P) 1.6


These are completely random. Several other states down South did almost or as bad as North Carolina and South Carolina. I thought the South was the epitome of success?!

For release 10:00 a.m. (EDT) Friday, October 19, 2012

Table E. States with statistically significant employment changes from
September 2011 to September 2012, seasonally adjusted
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| September | September | Over-the-year
State | 2011 | 2012(p) | change(p)
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Arizona.......................| 2,416,400 | 2,469,500 | 53,100
California....................| 14,085,900 | 14,347,900 | 262,000
Colorado......................| 2,262,900 | 2,300,200 | 37,300
Florida.......................| 7,286,300 | 7,349,800 | 63,500
Georgia.......................| 3,885,800 | 3,942,100 | 56,300
Hawaii........................| 593,400 | 605,700 | 12,300
Idaho.........................| 607,700 | 618,800 | 11,100
Illinois......................| 5,659,000 | 5,711,500 | 52,500
Indiana.......................| 2,834,500 | 2,899,600 | 65,100
Kentucky......................| 1,793,700 | 1,840,700 | 47,000
| | |
Louisiana.....................| 1,915,200 | 1,938,500 | 23,300
Massachusetts.................| 3,205,000 | 3,249,600 | 44,600
Michigan......................| 3,944,000 | 3,982,700 | 38,700
Minnesota.....................| 2,684,300 | 2,713,500 | 29,200
Montana.......................| 426,300 | 434,200 | 7,900
Nebraska......................| 945,600 | 958,300 | 12,700
New Jersey....................| 3,861,400 | 3,905,400 | 44,000
New York......................| 8,700,000 | 8,825,000 | 125,000
North Carolina................| 3,921,500 | 3,953,000 | 31,500
North Dakota..................| 398,400 | 420,700 | 22,300
| | |
Ohio..........................| 5,088,500 | 5,177,200 | 88,700
Oklahoma......................| 1,557,100 | 1,596,700 | 39,600
Pennsylvania..................| 5,692,800 | 5,733,900 | 41,100
South Carolina................| 1,831,200 | 1,860,500 | 29,300
Tennessee.....................| 2,664,700 | 2,685,100 | 20,400
Texas.........................| 10,594,900 | 10,857,600 | 262,700
Utah..........................| 1,218,800 | 1,238,600 | 19,800
Virginia......................| 3,686,500 | 3,722,500 | 36,000
Washington....................| 2,823,000 | 2,880,600 | 57,600
West Virginia.................| 757,500 | 747,500 | -10,000
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p = preliminary.

[Cleveland_Collector]

Not to mention, the source of the income "growth" also means something. If a major driver is sourced from blue state tax revenue, well...

For example, farm subsidies from 1995 - 2011:

TX: $15,266,205,337
OH: $5,052,800,919

Taking it on a straight linear average of population between 1990 and 2010, that is:

TX: $727 per capita
OH: $482 per capita

Or, 51% more federal farming influx per capita. And that's only the tip of the iceberg.