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I'm quite curious to know the sequence of events that took place. Did the police verify the ages of the girls before they detained the man taking their pictures? Because if they didn't, the man has a clear case of false arrest. Since the girls were not driving a car, they had a constitutional right to be in the streets without any ID documents (except in the People's Democratic Republic of Arizona), and the police cannot make an arrest of a third party until they have seen the identity documents of the girls showing that they are of such an age that it is a felony to possess lurid photos of them.
Yeah. The cops should have let the 33 year old pedofile/idiot/obviously hard up guy drive off while verifying the age of the girls he was taking pictures of. What self-respecting 33 year old takes a picture of 15 year old boobs? The girls are lucky he didn't offer them candy and a ride home ....to never be seen again and before the cops showed up. How naive can you be? And how STUPID was the pedofile/ 33 year old to get caught?
They did not have any right to expose themselves. At 20, 30, 40 , 50 or 95...not ok. The rest is moot. And I don't care what someone from Europe - where sex is natural hot stuff even when it happens between consenting 9 year olds, thinks. While living off socialism.
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The police can't just go around arresting everyone taking pictures, and hold them in jail until they examine the photos and verify the ages of everyone who appears in them in a sexually provocative pose.
Exactly.....you HOPE. We all hope, and pray and teach and talk and hope some more. It helps but it is no guarantee.
No of course there are no guarantees but it starts then they are young. You can't wait until they are 13 to instill a good belief system. To me these two girls have not had a good structure instilled in them. I understand that kids do dumb things but think about this, I mean really think. It was not cheating on a test or cutting class. It was showing their breasts to anyone that passed by on the street. First off where did they even get that idea and second what have they been taught or not taught that they decided it was a good idea? I can tell you this there is not a chance in hell when I was 15, 18, 25 or 30 that I would have ever thought this was a good idea and that is because of how I was raised and what my parents taught me.
No there should be no confusion at all. If girls would repect themselcves ther would be no problem. The problem is they don't. These girls prove that. Hell I have 8 year old girls telling me that they are going to marry my son and have his baby!!! WTF is that!! What the hell are these girls parents teaching them? or letting them watch?
I have had sex with one man. My husband, he has had sex with one woman, me. It is possible to meet the right person and not have sex with 25 people before you find them. Maybe if parents taught their girls to respect themselves they would not feel the need to flash their breasts on the freakin street corner.
Is a boy who has sex with an "easy" [your term, not mine] girl not also disrespecting himself? I'm not advocating that teens have sex for the sake of having sex, but I have to say, what's good for the gander...
So young girls and their parents are entirely responsible for teen sexuality? That's your position? How very Victorian of you.
As someone who works with college-age students, I will tell you that for the most part these girls are being raised by their parents to respect themselves, but in our culture, we are ill-equipped to deal with the reality of teen sexuality. Teen girls are pressured by their peers, the media, and yes by boys, to be sexual and then they get called vicious names by adults when the girls act in sexual ways. As adults, our job is to try to understand and guide, not label and degrade.
You're oversimplifying a pretty complex problem.
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How do you know it's not the other way around? Lots of things have changed....just like lots of things changed between when your mom was in high school and when you were. Some of that change is good and some isn't...but there is change nonetheless.
I am very serious. Girls HAVE changed just from when I was in school. There was no sex in the bathroom or under the stairs, we did not walk around with bracelets telling how far we would go, we DID think a BJ was sex and boys DID have respect for the girls that did not put out. When girls act like tramps they will get treated that way. If most girls are willing to have sex why should boys have respect for any? It is most certainly girls that have changed and IMO it is not a good change.
I am very serious. Girls HAVE changed just from when I was in school. There was no sex in the bathroom or under the stairs, we did not walk around with bracelets telling how far we would go, we DID think a BJ was sex and boys DID have respect for the girls that did not put out. When girls act like tramps they will get treated that way. If most girls are willing to have sex why should boys have respect for any? It is most certainly girls that have changed and IMO it is not a good change.
I still fail to see how it is all the fault of the girls? If boys weren't participating it wouldn't be happening either.... Unless you are saying that males are not responsible for their actions. But I wouldn't want to misinterpret or take anything out of context.
I still fail to see how it is all the fault of the girls? If boys weren't participating it wouldn't be happening either.... Unless you are saying that males have no self control. But I wouldn't want to misinterpret or take anything out of context.
I think it's the fault of the girls because she has boys. If she had girls it would likely be the other way around....all those nasty boys hanging on her precious innocent girls.
When I was in high school (grad 1985), there was plenty of sex, oral and otherwise, happening casually and between steady boyfriends and girlfriends. Not everyone had sex in high school (I didn't), but I don't think it was that different than it is now. I think the media talks about teen sex more but not in any helpful way. Case in point. This story 30 years ago might have gotten a little local interest but probably not. The girls probably would have been sent home with their parents. Now with the internet and multiple 24 hour news stations with time to fill, stories like this become national news within minutes.
I think it's the fault of the girls because she has boys. If she had girls it would likely be the other way around....all those nasty boys hanging on her precious innocent girls.
I think you're right! This is where having one of each really comes in handy....
Did I say that??? No I am pretty sure I did not. I am glad I have boys because the girls now a days act like sluts they have no respect for themselves and that makes it much harder to keep them on the right path.
You really have an issue with taking things out of context.
Remember, those are the same girls who will be dating (going after) your boys. You may soon rethink things .
I was always way more worried about my son ending up being trapped by a sleezy girl than I was about my girl becoming sleezy.
I am very serious. Girls HAVE changed just from when I was in school. There was no sex in the bathroom or under the stairs, we did not walk around with bracelets telling how far we would go, we DID think a BJ was sex and boys DID have respect for the girls that did not put out. When girls act like tramps they will get treated that way. If most girls are willing to have sex why should boys have respect for any? It is most certainly girls that have changed and IMO it is not a good change.
Wow....and you said you were trying to teach your boys respect for women??? I'm having a hard time seeing it.
If a girl acts trampy you can treat her like a tramp.
Because most girls are willing to have sex (at 15 I think that's debatable) you don't have to respect any girls.
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....to never be seen again and before the cops showed up. How naive can you be? And how STUPID was the pedofile/ 33 year old to get caught? 
Unless you are saying that males are not responsible for their actions. But I wouldn't want to misinterpret or take anything out of context.
I think you're right! This is where having one of each really comes in handy....
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