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Old 05-24-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm only 26 yrs old but man have times changed. I've have this done to me and did it to other people. I remember my friend doing this to me before football practice in 9th grade in front of the cheerleader's practice. I actually hesitates w little one pulling them back up because I was a "proud" dude. I made sure they got a good look. They were amazed shall we say. Some of you people want charges brought against the 13 yr old boy. This is unbelievable. Kids do stupid stuff. It's been going on since the beginning of time. This is one of the reasons this whole a bullying campaign is bothering me. I believing it's setting kids up for failure because when they get to the real world they will still believe that everyone gets a trophy and that everyone will be nice to them and be their friend. That's not how the real world works. Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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And stop comparing this and saying "if it was a girl things would have been different". If it was a girl, the boy wouldn't have even did it. We live in a double standard world but so what. It's been that way and it ain't changing.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:39 AM
 
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I'm only 26 yrs old but man have times changed. I've have this done to me and did it to other people. I remember my friend doing this to me before football practice in 9th grade in front of the cheerleader's practice. I actually hesitates w little one pulling them back up because I was a "proud" dude. I made sure they got a good look. They were amazed shall we say. Some of you people want charges brought against the 13 yr old boy. This is unbelievable. Kids do stupid stuff. It's been going on since the beginning of time. This is one of the reasons this whole a bullying campaign is bothering me. I believing it's setting kids up for failure because when they get to the real world they will still believe that everyone gets a trophy and that everyone will be nice to them and be their friend. That's not how the real world works. Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
In the real world pantsing is frowned on. Mature people know better than that.

So while I agree that middle school kids (and some very immature adults) do profoundly stupid, cruel and unexpected things sometimes, that is not a reason to give them a complete pass on their mistakes. When you do something stupid, you pay the consequences - that's real life.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Astoria, NY
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Glad I was homeschooled.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I believing it's setting kids up for failure because when they get to the real world they will still believe that everyone gets a trophy and that everyone will be nice to them and be their friend. That's not how the real world works. Maybe I'm just old fashioned.
So are you saying kids should or should not be accountable for their actions, you are using double-speak?
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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So are you saying kids should or should not be accountable for their actions, you are using double-speak?
He got suspended for 2 days so how was he not held accountable? Some of these posters want sexual assault charges brought on the guy. You think that's what it takes to be held accountable for something like this? Get real. And of course this is frowned on in the real world but what adult does this? I don't see adults in my office pantsing people once they get off the elevator. These are kid problems.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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And stop comparing this and saying "if it was a girl things would have been different". If it was a girl, the boy wouldn't have even did it. We live in a double standard world but so what. It's been that way and it ain't changing.
Girls got pantsed by boys when I was in junior high. There was a period of time when I refused to wear pants with elastic waistbands (like sweats) for this reason. All the girls dreaded P.E. because we wore pull-on shorts.

I think the rash of pantsing only lasted a few weeks, thank goodness.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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It boils down to maturity. The maturity level of kids are not on par with adults which is why you can't punish kids for THIS type of behavior the way you would if an adult did this. As tewest said, you just don't see adults pantsing each other. Kids need to learn coping mechanisms
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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The op already said the boy went back to school and was fine. That he didn't want charges, etc. It's on the 2nd page posted by the op. It's all resolved with the boy now. I think they did a good job at handling it.

Everyone else is just being hypothetical.
No, I'm responding to the hypothetical. Everyone is saying that if this happened to their kid, they'd bring charges, etc. I'm asking what if the hypothetical kid didn't want charges brought? I'm betting few would.

Responding to a different post, another reason we punish kids differently from adults is because their brains are actually wired differently. They're much more impulsive and can't consider consequences as well. So saying an adult who did this to a stranger would be punished more harshly isn't very helpful...an adult has full understanding that he shouldn't and understands what the consequences are likely to be. A 13 year old doesn't. That's the entire reason why we have a different law system for juveniles.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:51 AM
 
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I am absolutely FLOORED by the extreme reactions to this kid. FLOORED. Yes, what he did was wrong and yes, he should be punished. Pulling a prank like this does not make him a sadist.

I really fear for where this world is going when we have to jump to such extremes for normal behavior.
I'm with you on this one. Calling the police over pantsing? Really? In addition to being ridiculously harsh to the kid who did the pantsing (and was suspended for 2 days), it gives the message to the boy who was pantsed that he's so vulnerable and weak that mommy and daddy have to protect him from everything and that what happened was so horrendous that the police have to be involved.

The mom handled it all just fine. If it happened to my daughter I would tell her that the pantser was a jerk but that she was strong, smart and resilient and that nothing that silly would get her down.
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